Monday Beers Ep.88; Looking Beyond

On this week’s episode of Monday Beers, the guys are back in the shop catching up on the weekend, sharing stories from new adventures, and talking about everything that's been happening lately.

The conversation turns to the latest WMA regulation changes and what they could mean for hunters heading into future seasons. The guys break down their thoughts, concerns, and how these changes may impact the outdoor community.

Of course, no Monday Beers episode would be complete without a few detours along the way. From unexpected expenses to the realities of getting older, they discuss the ever-increasing cost of growing up and how responsibilities seem to multiply faster than free time.

It's a little hunting talk, a little life talk, and plenty of laughs in between. Grab a cold one and join the conversation. 🍻

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Uh like a Roman tomato. Emily brought some up here and too. They were so freaking good.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

These were Cherokee purples.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

I like those, yeah. They were about perfect, too.

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Like not too mushy, but still. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

And then I had another one at lunch. A little bit of salt and pepper.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Or tomato. I sprinkled uh Tony's on mine.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

But that was pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Tony's and uh a little bit of soy sauce.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Okay. We don't have any soy sauce here, but I had sweet and sour chicken out of a and rice out of a uh hungry man today. 15 grams of protein. Yesterday it was uh how much salt and pepper you have put on it? Not much. I just put uh I don't really put salt in my food. But I hope you would adjust the pepper.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

You ever looked at the sodium content of those?

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Is it the MSG in it, I guess?

SPEAKER_01 0:58

It's just stupid high. I mean it's preserved food. True. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

Yesterday I had like the hot honey and chicken, mac and cheese out of the hungry man. Sounds pretty good. Pretty freaking good.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

They do taste better than some of the microwave dinners, but still it just it's a bland to me. Yeah, microwave dinners are bland.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Yeah, these weren't. Really? Well, the one today was. The one yesterday, it was it was pretty good. I I think it's probably because it had spice in it, and I like spice, so it's like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Okay, let's not talk about food. I said I was hungry. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well you hear my stomach growling over this mic here in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

So as we're recording this today on the Lord's Day of June 16th of 2026, I put it On a Tuesday, not a Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Yeah, it's Lord's Day. The Lord's Day is Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Every day's Lord's Day. Fair, fair. Okay. And then uh, anyways, I put a bet on uh some goal scores for the World Cup today. And uh it was Mbappé.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

How do you go?

SPEAKER_02 2:07

What? Yeah. So Mbappe, I feel like I'm watching it right now. We're just all over the place. Like palligan and whatchamacallit, uh Messi. So the Mbappe in Holland is hit, so now I just need Messi tonight. I don't even know what my cash out option is.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Dear baby Jesus. Dear baby Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

If you don't chew big rib, then fuck you. Yeah. Where's let's let's log in here. Okay, right now my cash out option off of $5, $13.16. So double, a little over double what I what I put at. So, but I mean if Messi scores a goal, then it's gonna be $35.80. I feel like I should probably just ride it out, you know, but can't be a bitch all your life.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

I just really can't get into it.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

I I'm really enjoying it. We all we all went to uh uh prospects, a bar up in Little Rock to spoke you look like a nail lady at the salon or something. We all uh me and some of my buddies from Litterock, we all went out Friday after we picked up Maddie's car, and uh dude, it was freaking electric. Like watching the the US play Paraguay, it was like it was electric, man.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Joke at a downtown down there?

SPEAKER_02 3:31

No, we we do uh they're in Hillcrest pretty much. Yeah. Or not downtown.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

Uh over there where they had the soccer goal or the no we didn't we didn't because it was so packed already.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

We're and plus we would have had to sit outside and it was hot and we were just like, yeah, you know, like don't do well under those conditions. I don't I don't. I don't. I mean I'll say that much.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Crowds like crowds and heat. Yeah, just miserable.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Well, it was it was cool because there was uh I I bet something it was like 25 to win. It was it was something fan duel in. So I mean like it was obviously like a lock and it was like a thing, but yeah, you got an extra $25.25. And then I made two more bets, like just during the game, just shits and gigs. And then with like a couple minutes left in the game, I placed the uh correct score, 4-1. And we're as we're getting up to leave the bar because we're like fuck it, it's not hitting. Who cares? Like, game's over, we won. Let's just go to a different bar. And as we're all we're all standing up from the table at this point, walking out the door, crowd goes crazy in the in the restaurant, and I was just like, oh 4-1, 4-1. We scored. It was pretty badass. And I'm gonna go ahead out here for everybody listening. This is pre-us playing Australia. I'm gonna say we beat Australia 2-1. I'm gonna go ahead and say that.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

He's getting pretty bold with his whole soccer stats.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Football. He gets like that after he wins a couple. It happens every time, and then the next time you next time you talk to him, he's like, man, then he falls down escalator.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Real hard. He just keeps on bouncing everyone.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

It's gonna be two one or two nil, one of the two. I'm gonna I'm gonna call it right now USA. USA. USA. USA. I'm telling y'all guys, it is freaking electric to watch. Like, it's obviously kind of boring by yourself to watch it, but I mean, like, with a group of people and everything, it it was actually pretty damn fun.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

A group of people makes anything fun that's not no.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Do you did y'all know that uh like a big group of uh crows is called a murder? Yeah, yeah, isn't that a big thing? I didn't know that. Yeah, it's pretty cool. That's crazy, isn't it? That's pretty cool. Like it makes you kind of think like what? Like, why we just look at them on say, hey man, murder they be murdering. I'm just saying, man. There's my there's my uh deep thought of the day for everybody for my factual statements.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Yeah. Anyway, Colton. Yeah. How was the fishing?

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Uh it was actually really good. Uh oh, it felt amazing up there.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

I mean, I mean it still got warm. I know that video you posted. I don't know if it was on Snapchat of the fog air more. I was like, oh, baby.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Like you'd hit you'd hit a little warm spot every once in a while. You'd it'd be like, you know, five minutes of like, oh man, it's getting a little warm. And then all of a sudden a breeze would come through and a little patch of fog would hit you. It'd be like outdoor air conditioning going on. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

I know when I saw that, I was like, oh. That would hit right now.

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Uh so we only fished Saturday morning. Well, up until about one o'clock or noon. Somewhere in there. And uh Yeah, but we caught probably 20 20, 25, or something like that. And then it started raining butt off. But we had already caught our limit. You know, we had to throw a bunch of those back. Because right now it's only two a person. And you can't have anything over 14 inches right now. Just because they're I guess there's they had a big hatchery blowout or something happened at the hatchery, and they're still trying to rebuild the population of the river. So get the hatchery going again.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

I remember them saying it was two, but like it's still that's so crazy to me. Only two.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

And it's nothing under 14 inches.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Yeah, but you gotta think how how many people can fish up to. But I mean, the the 14 inches. See, I think I thought they would be like they would want you to be like you can keep two, but one of them has to be over 14 inches. Yeah. But maybe I guess once they get cut at the stock size, then they're produ reproducing.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

It's gotta have something to do with when they start reproduction. Um maybe over. I mean, I would think, I don't know, but maybe over fourteen inches is when they start reproducing. Very well could be.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Which dad told me even, you know, Dad, you know, whenever you talk about fishing a pond or whatever for like bass or crappie or you know, uh brium or whatever, dad was like, Well, we're not gonna keep the big ones. We're gonna keep like the medium range ones that are you know big enough to eat, but don't keep the real big ones because they're your your breeding stock, basically. And they have really good genes because they are big, you know.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

I mean that's that's what we do. We'll keep you know the two pounders. Yeah. The one and a half to two pounders and anything. Especially when you got a bunch of them like that.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Did you find the answer yet? I'm looking. I was really hoping you heard.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

I guess I guess it is.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

Trout generally start spawning when they reach ten to fourteen inches in length. Okay. That's that would be why. Yeah, we caught a couple uh hitting their first spawn around two to three years old. That's for rainbow brown and brook.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

I bet they're how little how how old are they whenever they put those stock fish in from the hatchery? You think they're two years old? Or you one and a half, maybe? No. I bet they're not even that old. They gotta be at least a year, I would think, to grow. Because stock size like what, like six inches, seven inches?

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

The ones that I've seen come out to shoot.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Uh uh, stock trout released by the AGFC are typically one to two years old. One to two? Really? Yep. Uh these fish range from catchable nine to fourteen inches in length. I mean about nine inches. About the stocker size. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

So they're basically getting them almost a breeding age. And then releasing them. Yeah. Now you should see some of them, like they're uh they're breeding fish at the hatchery. Like they're at uh was it uh JFK? Is that what that one's called? RFK, JFK. Remember that little one that that campground we went to? On the Red River? Yeah. By the lake? Yeah, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Yeah, I can't remember what that was called.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

It's I know the melon. JFK, isn't that a president? Yeah. Yeah. It might be JFK. That's it. All right. So, but out they had the gate open to go in there and walk and look in the hatchery last time me and Lauren went up there. My God. At the size of the trout they got in there. I guess it's like their breeding pool. Oh, yeah. And man, these suckers are huge. I mean, water's clear so you can see. Well, they're just like in these real long, like concrete bats like at uh fish ponds. Yeah, yeah. Or the fish bats at the fit minnow ponds or whatever. And uh yeah, oh man, they're just swimming around. Oh, freaking monsters. But I guess that's what they usually breed.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Come get this pyre bake, cuz come on with it. I don't know. I still ain't never ate trout though, other than that time that me and Arod basically tried to eat it raw, more or less. We can't cook fire. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

It's actually really good. I think it's a good thing. It was not cooked. You can you can literally put butter and lemon and a little bit of salt on it and cook it like that. But I like a little bit of flavor to it. But basically you gut them, you shove all your seasoning in the belly area, and then just you can wrap it up in full, or you can cook it straight on the grill like that. But if you wrap it in full, it holds all that moisture, you know, the butter, moisture, and everything in there. I was supposed to say it.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

You bake it or grill it or you could bake it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

But we, you know, we usually throw it on open fire or grill it just for the nostalgia of being up there. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Oh, so y'all cook somewhere over up there. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

But the only bad thing about trout is it's a lot of work. Yeah, it's it's like picking through a crab kind of thing. Like you, because you have to rake it, and the bones are like little bitty needles.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

And you so you gotta rake it out the right way. And if you if you see a patch where all the bones come out, just don't even eat that section. Like, because it's gonna you're never gonna get them out of your teeth and down your throat.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

And the few times I've eaten it was like they put lemon pepper seasoning on it, and then smoked it. That does pretty good though. I bet smoking them would be basically the same, but yeah, getting that smoke flavor would be.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

And you want to make sure you're at the right like you want to pull them at the right time, but also cook them long enough. That way it's easy to come out of those little bitty bones. Because there's there's meat on both sides of those little bitty bones. So you gotta like like you know, like pulling steak off a skewer almost, but there's millions of them.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

I do. I mean, I want to try it, but like that's kind of like a big reason I don't eat something like crab. I love crab. You don't want to work for your food. I can hate having to work that hard. I agree. Especially when you pay that much for something. Because most places you go, it's not cheap. And you're literally sitting there having to like basically work your ass off just to eat your meal.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

I say it all the time. Like, I'm from the south, but not far enough south where I eat whole crappie, I guess. I mean, I don't like whole crappie. I want a fish fillet.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

I'm I'm I'm I'm with you on that one. The people like the guys back here, like Preston and um Patrick and stuff, all all them, are like, oh yeah, you gotta eat it whole. And I'm like, I don't have to.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

And I'm not eating a fishtail. It's not having it.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

I've done it before. I mean, it's not bad, but it's like, why? I don't know. I mean, it's just because it's crunchy, I guess, and people are like, you know how like the same way like when fried chicken's done or something, it's got that crunch to it, people are like, oh yeah, you gotta eat skin, it's crunchy, you know. I get it, but at the same time, like, there ain't no fucking meat there. I don't I don't really get it.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

So fun fact. Like the fried fish, the crunch, the crunchy ends. The the crunchy ends. Yeah, like I would never eat that. Really? The crunchy ends I didn't eat. Because you thought it was like I don't know. Yeah, I just didn't like it.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

No, I'm with you. I don't, I do not like crunchy fish. I I I do not at all. I I mean a lot of people have a little crunchy fried crunch.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Yeah. I mean, you gotta have a little crunch on the outside.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

And then you want the soft soft and yeah, but what I'm saying is I don't want it to where it's like crunchy all the way through. Some people like on the very end where it's just like real small crunch all the way. That don't bother me. But like, but like people like that like like their fish crunchy, is what I'm saying. Like like all the way, the whole battery all the way through is like super crunchy. Uh I I don't really care for that.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Well then you're kind of overcooking it, ain't you? Yeah, you're curious.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

It's what I fucking think.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

But a lot of people, that's how a lot of people I've met actually like theirs. We may sound like I made that.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

We are picky shit. We're piggy.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

I mean, hold on, I will eat it if it's what's there. If you invite me over and you cook, I'll eat it.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Yeah, but I'll even work out a little bit, I guess. But and it sounded it's I made that statement this weekend because uh so it was Lauren's grandma and her stepgrandfather and uh her uncle, aunt, and then her cousin, her boyfriend. Well, her step grandpa isn't he's from New York. And he he's trout fished before, but he hadn't ate it in a long time. And he's like, What do you think about it? I was like, Well, I just I mean it's great tasting, it's just I hate working for my food. And he's like, What do you mean? You work for your food all winter? And I go, Well, that's different. I mean, I mean, whenever I sit down at the dinner table, I don't want to pick through my food. I don't like throwing it.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

I see where he's coming from. I see his logic for damn sure. But yeah, no, it's it's a little different for me.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Like, I was about to say, that's the work that I enjoy. I don't enjoy having to like Holly. I want to be able to eat and which I eat really fast too. I do too.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

I feel like I hate cutting my steak up. Like anything that girls on me for me putting my food in my mouth, it just pisses me off.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

Other than getting like shit on my hands and stuff, I I would just straight up just eat a steak. And I can remember at your damn bachelor party, I literally fucking did just Neanderthal steak. Uh yeah, I mean, I did. Well, we didn't have any more forks. So, I mean, you know, somebody had to improvise.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

And if you don't have a fork, you just don't use the knife.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Um, you just pump your Neanderthal into that son of a bitch, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Hey, there's nothing wrong with it. That's how you're supposed to eat a steak. I thought it was good.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Hey, I mean, why not?

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Steak is finger food.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Steak is finger food. I really want to try this new recipe though. It's not new recipe. For a steak? Well, I did see somebody do it with steak, but I don't want to-travagant with a steak. I don't want to do it with steak just because, you know, steak's kind of like a delicacy to me. It is a delicacy to me. But uh, like it's basically like you take it and you're like you do like steak fingers, is what they were called. Like just fry them. Cut them in strips and f fry it. I was like, fuck, that'd be that's gotta be good. Yeah, they did it with steak, but I mean, like, I'd rather do it with like something else. Like a skirt steak, maybe. I've done it with deer steak before, and it was really good.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Yeah, because I mean technically as long as you're okay eating steak rare. I don't see the problem in that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Well, or you cook it before you fry it.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Yeah, I guess you could preliminary, but I wouldn't cook it past rare because once you throw it in the fryer, it'd be medium rare.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

I mean, I like a good rare steak. I do. I like mine more medium, medium rare. I want mine on the fur between rare and medium. Yeah, see, uh Maddie likes hers rare. And I'm just like, eh, you know. That's what I don't like it fucking trying to run away from me while I'm trying to eat it. Like uh, this goes back to not having to work for your steak, you know what I ain't trying to run after this motherfucker. But that's how she likes it. She likes it. All right, put it on the plate. Now I'm like, ah, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

What is it? Chop the horns off, wipe its ass, drag it across the grill on the way to me.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Exactly. I ate medium rare for years and years. I guess that I guess that was what my dad would always order, or whoever I was around. But Lauren always got it rare. So then I mean we'd share a plate or something. I was like, hmm, I think I like this better.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

No, I made it rare. I I obviously I'd rather have it more rare than more done a lot of the times. But if I go to a restaurant, I always get medium rare just because it's like a standard that everybody should know how to cook, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, well, medium rare gives you the uh kind of the buffer on both sides where hopefully it's not opass medium rare, but if it's a little bit less, it's still okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

And I don't mind medium. I I don't, I'll still eat it, but I'd rather it not be medium. I mean, I'll I'll eat it for damn sure and I'll still like it, but I pass in, I'm out.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

I quit I quit getting steak if I go out to eat. Because it's never made the way like I I can make it the exact way I want it. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

And uh it just sometimes I'm very surprised. I will give you sometimes too. Well, 50, maybe 60% of the time, I'm like, eh, fuck, this ain't no good. But you go to, you know, and you that's the reason why you go back to those places. You find those good places, you're like, fuck, that's damn good. I ain't never ate it like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

I mean, like, if I had the money to go all the time, I'd go to the down to the red oak. I mean, it's there's red oak was pretty. I mean, there are those exceptions.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

But even it, but even uh over there on the uh what's it called, Legends? Yeah, we always eat. I never had it there. Their steak, it's almost the same thing. It's just not the same cut.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

You know, it's not as nice of a steak, but it the ta the flavor and stuff, it's it's really my mom likes the steak from over there, but I ain't never tried it because I'm like, I'm not gonna get a steak over there. If I'm gonna get a steak, I'm gonna, you know. A lot of but that's my thing, is I'm cutting with you, is because like if I can cook it how I want it cooked, yeah, why wouldn't I just buy it for way less than half the price and just cook it at the house kind of thing?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

I just got tired, uh like you said, 50% of the time it's decent. But I I don't like risking it anymore.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

Well, not for the how much it costs. Yeah, that's it. At most restaurants, it's yeah, crazy right now.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Yeah, I'd rather try. It has broadened my what I'll order to eat, whatever I got to eat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Like Yeah, I'm not scared to try something totally different either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

I've kind of been on that kick here lately, too.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

And then every once in a while, you know, like I'll see uh country fried steak on the menu.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

I'm like, fuck yeah, country fried steak.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

That's how mad he is with country or hamburger steak.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

I like a hamburger steak. I haven't I can't I I damn sometimes I had a hamburger steak.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

I can last Thursday. I left here. Really?

SPEAKER_02 21:20

How'd you go over there? Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

When you got a hamburger steak, it's pretty good. Really?

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

I ain't had that in shit, man. I I really can't remember when. I honestly can't. Probably since I was a kid. Genuinely. That's probably the last time I've had one.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

You'll make it sometime this week.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Yeah, probably now.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

I will I probably will. Probably will.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

What do you want for dinner now? Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

I bet say because the other night, I was really I don't know why, but like I get like certain cuisine kicks. Like, like sometimes like cuisine, like sometimes cuisine.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Oh my I tell

SPEAKER_02 22:00

I was talking about hungry man's, but no, no. Like, sometimes I just like want traditional, like American food or like Southern food, like for a straight little while. Or I want Japanese or Chinese or Mexican. Like, and I'll eat it like probably four times that week. It's just like I get those kicks, those little spurts. But right now, the only thing that I can ever think about at every given moment is sushi. I fucking love sushi. And it has been the only thing on my mind lately as far as food-wise goes. Oh my God. I mean, I would as Theo Vaughn once said, I would punch a or I'd kick a fat kid for it. I mean, I would. Like, I I freaking love sushi.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

He tried that once. Well, speaking of-broke his mirror.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

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SPEAKER_02 24:10

I don't know exactly what happened there, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

So when did it change from iTunes to Apple Music?

SPEAKER_02 24:17

That's a fucking great question. I was kind of wondering if I got my.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

So it's not it's not even iTunes. There's an iTunes app and then there's a podcast app, I'm pretty sure. I can't tell you. Is it still iTunes? Yeah, there's iTunes Store app on your phone. Really? iTunes Store.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Yeah, and there's Podcast, I'm pretty sure. The music is just music. Podcast for Apple is just podcast. And music is just music. So you can use iTunes Store in the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Well, it's I just have an app on my phone that's I just typed it in the search and found it.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

I don't know where it's at on my phone.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

And I guess you buy music, which nobody does that anymore. You can still buy music. Oh, damn, showed up.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Wow, it is on here. Okay, so iTunes is still a thing. Wow. Or Apple Music.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

The return of Olivia Rodrigo. One song is $1.29.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Get bent. Is that like the what was that? U2? Whatever that got spammed onto everyone's phone.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

YouTube, like the band out of the room.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Yeah, you like you got an entire album that you never asked for. Yeah. And I think one of the songs was like the first one that played every time I played my phone in.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Yeah. No, I will say whenever you didn't have service and you go, oh, well, it's on my downloads, it'd be that.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Yeah. I've never learned any of those songs ever.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Mine, mine's uh gotta open up the window.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Oh it's called Anado.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Yeah, it's called Travis Scott. Yeah. Dude, like for the longest time, because I believe it was always at the top of the list. It was the first song that plate, and I got so fucking sick of hearing it. I was like, Jesus. And like ever since then, I I don't listen to Travis Scott that much because that fucking song delode. But I'm not a big, like I'm I don't really conserve myself to one genre, but I will say, do y'all remember back in the day, speaking of iTunes store, like whatever you would get an iTunes gift card from like your grandparents or anything? Oh my god. What did they call an iPod? iPod iPod? It was an iPod, didn't it?

SPEAKER_00 26:38

And it had those little brick pods or whatever, the little square boxes that didn't even have a screen.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

No, that was an iPod nano. Yeah, that was the nano. That was nano. But if you had an iPod, yeah, if you had an iPod that had a screen on it. Look kind of like the iPhone, whatever, three like just iPods. But you would scroll it with like your thumb kind of thing to scroll the ice cream. Okay, before that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Before the touch screen.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Yes, before the touch screen. Yeah, before that one. But dude, oh man, I remember how excited you used to get. I was like, okay, man, I'm gonna buy me some ringtones for this motherfucker. I'm about to about to buy me some, I'm about to buy me a couple songs. I mean, because really, like, songs were 99 cents then, I think. And like you could find some for like 49 cents or some shit like that. But like, you know, so if you got a $20 gift card, you're like, shit, man, I'm about to buy a whole fucking album just because I can. You know, I mean because it can.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Getting all 25 of these songs. I don't even like but five of them.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

It seems like the biggest waste of money now. Yeah. Like now you like, well, I actually do pay for subscription on YouTube because I watch so many videos on YouTube. Yeah. That way I don't have to watch the freaking commercials. I hate watching commercials on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

And there's why are they so long? I don't know. It's YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

But then I realized that they have uh YouTube music too with that. Did not know that. It's amazing. I love YouTube music. Really? And then you can actually watch the videos too. Like uh whenever you're in the YouTube app, you can just be it could just be like a still image, you know, the song album code. Or you can close out of the app and like or you can switch over to the video and it'll have like the music video play and stuff. Like you would watch it on Never Trick.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

I haven't got to tell anybody this. I mean, so if you're out there listening, I I mean, I guess take me off, but some dude on my uh there's some guy's account, YouTube TV, logged in on my uh uh on my TV that I've had since it was brand new. And me and Maddie, she accidentally clicked on YouTube TV the other day, go on to YouTube. We were just gonna sit back, watch some videos, hang out, bullshit. And uh clicked on it, somebody's account was logged in. Tried to look this person up on Facebook, Instagram, everything, not a fucking clue.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Somebody bought this TV and used it once and returned it, and they never like they're not gonna factory reset it.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

I'm just saying, man. Hey. Dude, I literally, I was like, Matt, he was like, well, that's kind of spooky. And I was like, fuck not, not for me, man. I'm I've got to loving it.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

Yeah, I mean that's the only bad thing about YouTube, they don't set up different, like you know, Netflix will set up different profiles. Like if me and Lauren are both logged in on our account, she goes to hers. That way, if she's watching something on her own, and then I can go to mine, and I'm watching my on YouTube. If you got two or three people watching something on there, it changes your whole freaking algorithm, and then you're like, what the fuck is this shit popping up?

unknown 29:46

Watching that.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

Yeah, because I finally, like on the regular YouTube app on the TV, I finally just after a year of living in the house, I finally logged into my YouTube account, and Mighty was like, What is this? Like, you you didn't like mine, and I was like, Well, I mean, I kind of got sick of sorting through all this bullshit to find what I wanted to watch. The beauty project and like the Alex Earl podcast and like this and that, and I was just like, you know what? Yeah, I just as soon as I log into budget, it's right there.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

I've watched YouTube for so long, it has me dialed in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And and if I pick up something new, it's a matter of two days, it has a whole nother little row of shit for me.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

I mean, like, think of what I do. Watch, I watch a lot, like a shit ton, really.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Yeah, you're an iPad kid.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

I am an iPad kid, 100 fucking percent. Crazy thing is, I never had one growing up, but by God.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Didn't become an iPad kid until later on in life. Until later on in life.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

No, I fucking was that thing. I don't go anywhere without it. I'll put it that way. But like, yeah, I was just like so pumped that I have YouTube TV and didn't have to pay a fucking dime.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Oh, that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Fuck yeah, that's awesome. That's badass. There's a lot of stuff on there, too. Fuck yeah. I mean, we haven't we haven't we haven't watched anything on it. I will say that. We have not watched anything on it. So if you are out there listening, I haven't.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

I started uh Landman.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Just now? Just now.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Landman's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

I'm I I'm the kind of guy that waits around until everybody starts talking about it, and they're like, all right, I know it's good, but you know, I want to I want to at least a couple of seasons be able to watch, like binge watch it for a while.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

See, I I can't do binge watching.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Well, it's not I don't I wouldn't say binge watching.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Well, like you're watching two or three episodes every night.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

Whenever y'all got me on Games of Thrones, I watched that thing in like two weeks' time. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess you would call it binge watching this. Yeah, that's true. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

I get I guess I get bored like about night five of watching like maybe two or three episodes of the same show. Yeah, I get pretty invested. I get kind of I get kind of I'm the same way, I get invested.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Like I I I learn and I I I feel like I start looking at the outlook of what I think is about to happen next. The way I watch stuff.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

I gotta watch like three or four different shows and watch a different episode, like a different one every night.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Well, like right now, I okay. So like right now I'm re-watching Criminal Minds for Man I I I would conservatively say Yeah, me too. I would conservatively say the twelfth time all the way through. Damn near. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

But here's the thing. Is I I've watched Surely you've got it memorized by now.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Oh yeah, most of it, yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I also watched like uh fucking The Chick Flick, Vampire Diaries. I watched that. Yeah, I know you remember that. I know I've watched that at least 15 times through. I know I have. But it's just like they're almost like I'm not gonna say comfort shows, but they're like I I know they're good shows, so I can go back and watch them and just be like, oh man, you know, that was good. Instead of like watching something new and wasting my time, be like, fuck, that was really bad. Why did I just waste my time?

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Well, i I don't know. It I I just it's the it's not necessarily the show, it's the pattern of it. So it took me forever to watch Supernatural all the way through. Really? Because of the the method, like it it became more like the same story, just told differently on each episode. Like you know, this is gonna happen and this and this, and there might be one little thing in there that wasn't like I understand that, yeah. Yeah. So I'd have to take a break from it for a little while because I kind of got bored of the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

See, I've I've watched it, I've watched Supernatural two times through. I really enjoy that show.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Oh, I'm about halfway through it on the second time.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

I mean, I I enjoy the show. I mean, just because like that's my go it's weird. My mind's weird. I mean, no, I I I understand. Like, if I get into another show, I watch it, and then whenever I get kind of bored of it, I'll go back to supernatural and watch that and then no, I I get that. Just to you gotta break the break the cycle, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Yeah, but like like he was saying, like Game of Thrones, shit, I've watched that at least three times.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

I've never watched it.

SPEAKER_00 34:22

You might like it. It it makes you think a lot.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Everyone I know likes it. It's probably everyone.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Dad watched it all the way through. In my personal opinion, it just makes you think a lot. It's probably the best show ever made, my personal opinion. And I've watched a lot of shows.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Also, the production on it is freaking amazing.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

I don't have HBO, so well, you can use my account. I mean, like, it's that fucking good.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

I mean, I think I love that more than anything, the production on it. Like, looking at how they I was like, how do you think it all day?

SPEAKER_02 34:52

Yeah. But that like goes back like every night when I every night when I go to bed, I watch the same thing every night when I go to bed. I turn on big like it used to be, like when I was a lot younger, when like Family Guy was on Netflix, watch Family Guy when I went to bed. A lot of people don't watch TV when they're in bed. I do. I'm one of those people.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

I quit doing it. Yeah. And I think I sleep better. Really?

SPEAKER_02 35:13

I really see that's what Angie Stevens up here. She was like, maybe try that and you might start sleeping better. And I was like, Yeah, and I did, and I did for like a week or two. And I actually, I will say I was sleeping better, but I mean, I don't know. It's it's a habit thing. Been doing it since I was a literal fucking child, child. And so like I'm just used to it now. Like, and now I watch Big Bang Theory every night when I go to bed. Like, watched all this shit so many fucking times, I could literally tell you the next thing they're gonna fucking say. But I mean, like, you know, it's a just a show to go to bed, and you know, you don't have to watch it. You need it's background noise.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

You just find something that you're like, oh, this would put me asleep. I don't give a shit about it. Yeah, it's background noise, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

But like the first time I ever watched it through, I was like, hell yeah, you know, I really paid attention.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

So then you wouldn't go to sleep if you were actually watching something you want to watch. Exactly. Exactly. Like me. You you look up watching one o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Like the like that new show on HBO, The Pit. I don't know if y'all heard about it. It's fucking damn good. Really, really good, really super good. And uh, dude, like we'd watch uh a show uh on the couch, or two or two of them on the couch, and it'd be like they're like over an hour long, they're like right at an hour, probably. And then we'd go get in bed, and she's like, She'll be turning it on. I'm like, well, I can't pretend like it's a bad idea. Like, fuck yeah, we should turn it on. Dude, we'd be laying in bed till you know 12 30 and be like, shit, we need to go to sleep, you know. Like, but I mean that's why I had to just start going back to like doing like something like that, because just I can turn something on and go to bed.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

I don't know. I don't know what it is about it. Because I was like, I guess kind of the habit thing. Like I can remember being daddy, you remember falling asleep with TV going, waking up to George Lopez?

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Yeah, oh yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Why was that song so loud?

SPEAKER_00 37:10

I didn't have a TV in my bedroom until whenever I put that TV in my my house. Uh you didn't have one in that day. Even whenever I the first few years, uh several years I lived there, I didn't even have a TV in my bedroom then. Yeah. I didn't ever watch TV.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

Remember, like everybody, y'all would all come over and be like, hey, Colton, the dish is not working. Oh, I hadn't turned it on in two months. Yeah. I do remember that. Like I used to never watch TV.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

I do remember that. Fucking hell. Yeah. That's crazy to me. But you know, like, that's just some people, like, some people just don't literally watch it at all. You know, like I've even heard some people like they don't let their kids watch, or no, I mean, I don't have a problem with it. They don't let they like make their kids read or go play outside or something. I think that's fine. Me personally, I I like TV.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

I don't watch a lot, like like I said, I mean like before bed, maybe like an episode or two of something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

I watch more YouTube than anything. I watch a lot of YouTube. Most of the YouTube videos I'm watching, I feel like I'm learning something because I'm researching something. Like, how the fuck they do that? And then I start, I go down a rabbit hole of watching like three or four videos about like right now we're just about every time I watch YouTube. I don't know if we can maybe we can talk about this. We're gonna figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

But no. Well, no, okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

We can't talk about it yet. We're not talking about it yet.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

No, Jack. Why did you why does your mind go immediately to that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

The event idea. Oh, yeah. We're gonna wait and make sure. But yeah, we got a cool idea. But we've been researching that a lot. I feel like probably me and I think I had a pretty cool idea too. No, I have got it down.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Yeah, no, uh friggety frack. I hate when I lose my I got samurai over there looking at me, looking like he's ready to crush my skull. Uh I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what I was gonna say. It don't even matter. Must not have been important. I hate when I do God, that shit makes me so mad.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

So I heard rumors and I think it's true. I didn't do that. Oh. From the guy that was up here talking last night, but I'd been hearing rumors that they're taking places zoned in WMAs and they're making it paddle in only, no boat motors.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

Yep. That is true.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

And I from a guy already that works for the feds and for the like the river bottoms and stuff on what they do to I guess regulations over there. He said, yeah, in double maze, that's that's happening this year. Yeah. There's gonna be zones where it's no boat motors. I think it's a great thing. Yeah. If you want to work on it. I just hope they don't pick lousy places. I hope they pick actually some good places that and then people, if they want to go in there, they work and want to work hard and get in there, they have great hunts, but also there might not be a lot of people in there. And then we're resting ducks and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is true. I mean, less disturbance. You gotta think about it.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

But even if they paddle in, and there is a bunch of people in there, at least they're not running boat motors and scaring everything.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

I was about to say, when you're running a boat through the woods, I mean, you're scaring 150 yards one way and a hundred yards the other. Like when you're paddling in, you're disturbing ten yards to one side and the other. Yeah, or at least line of sight. Yeah, line of sight.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

I mean, I it's not gonna really affect me much. I mean, I think it I think I think it'll I think I think it will affect hunting and like like y'all say the conservation side of it as far as people not alleviate a lot of that pressure.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

I think it'll force a very cool experience for some people. I mean, people may not want to admit it, they'll probably be pissed off, but I think because I love the old style of stuff, yeah, and I think it'll force some of that back into the picture.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

My little brother in law just bought a boat. He's done got so ate up with duck hunting, and he went and got him a boat. I mean, and like I mean, it's a fixer upper for sure, but like the bones are damn good.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

I mean, like well, if it's an aluminum boat, like I was talking about this with someone else. Like, an aluminum boat, you can't hurt it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

I mean like he was uh he was like, what should I do right here? I was like, well, I mean, if you wanted to get fancy, tack weld it, but I mean, really just fill it up with silicone or something.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

I mean, I ain't gonna Yeah, but you're gonna see some innovation. I guarantee you. People are gonna be building like little racks. Stop! I guarantee you. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. People are gonna be building little kayak racks on their boat and they're gonna go right up to the line and they're gonna push the kayak off and off they go into that area, which is fine. I mean, that's the rules, but I people are gonna be getting real innovative and ways to make it as easy as possible. Kayak hunting is about to be a big thing down here in our.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

I mean, and that's the things going to paddle in only. Like for a lot of people it'll be like this, and for me, it'll be like this. I might actually start hunting some public ground again. Because I mean, I'm willing to put in that effort and have like a real peaceful style. Like the whole re the whole thing that's kept me from going over these past years is just there's so many people. I mean, you can't get far enough away the It's just It's not so much that the reward isn't there, it's not fun whenever I'm setting up next to fifty to seventy yards from another group. No, I'm not having fun now.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

But I also wonder if that will affect our income as a state.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, they've been doing that for years. Yeah, because I guarantee I guarantee you though I'm gonna be perfectly honest. They're not gonna pick the hot spot.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

No.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

They already know where everybody wants to go. And they're gonna be like, oh, we're just gonna make this area over here paddle in on it. And it's not even like normally that's probably a walk in spot. And it'll be like, well fucking a boat wouldn't be in there anyway. I mean, I I hate to really say that. It'll it'll be spots that you can't get boats to because it is revenue driven, all the decisions that they make. Yeah. Fair it is very revenue. Even the refuge over there is revenue driven on the decisions they make. Like they like the whole uh getting rid of and I hate I don't I'm not saying that that this is a a thing or I'm advocating for it, but like getting the whole idea of getting rid of mud motors and stuff that they bring up sometimes. They ain't gonna do it. Because this this is gonna piss off fifty percent of the motors because fifty percent of them got mud motors and then all of a sudden you're gonna lose that revenue and they're not gonna do it. You know?

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Yeah. I mean that's why I mean can't modify your exhaust anymore.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

How the fuck can you modify your exhaust?

SPEAKER_00 44:39

Why would you do that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

The same reason they drill like on a traditional outboard. They'll drill out above the water so that it's exhausting above the water.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

You know how the motor gets extremely a lot louder whenever they pull out of the boat ramp and it's still running? Yeah. Yeah. They it makes it sound like that. Like that all the time. Why? I guess they don't want to enjoy their boat ride.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

I guess I guess the same the same reason you put pipes on your truck.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Like even during the summer I don't want to listen to that shit. I'd rather listen to music that's it's a quiet motor.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 45:12

I mean I'll be honest I'm first to admit it you know when I was younger in my teenage years and got my first ride held my first two rides we all did it had pipes on my truck. But I can assure you this I will never fucking do that dumb shit ever again. Like every time somebody drives by with loud pops I'm like please shut the fuck up yeah every time I'm just like I'll just stop talking because I can't hear that good anyway so I'll just like stop talking like and just wait for them to pass by and then go back to my conversation because like I just now we know why all the older people looked at us like what the fuck yeah no I I get it and I I apologize personally I do I I mean I apologize for it being loud but I don't apologize for being young and dumb you know and doing some shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

You learn oh doing a lot of cool shit.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

Yeah yeah but I mean I I learned now that like I was how ignorant that shit I remember whenever I got it done and my dad was like what the like what the fuck what what was the he was like you spent money on that I was like I did.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

I'd have a vehicle with pipes but it wouldn't be the one I drive every day.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Yeah sometimes you know just just so sometimes I get it and like I like I do like hearing the roar of the engine extra loud is very nice. It's satisfying yeah just like you want to which technically legally blowing off steam on the roadway is not a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

No. But sometimes just hearing that it's perfectly legal I can accelerate as fast as I want as long as I don't break traction it it's it's legal you can accelerate as long as you don't exceed the speed limit or lose control of your vehicle. No shit. Yeah I mean there's no law about how yeah how fast I can take off from a stop sign. That is true.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

I've always kind of wondered that so yeah I can romp on it all I want romp on it romp on it going for a romp buddy I mean bud I mean you're gonna have on a romp or two while you're doing your romp I made the word not funny anymore there you go excuse me what do you call it fucking pound on metal goose on it stomp on it stomp on it yeah stomp on it I'm gonna stomp on it yeah stomp what I mean fuck what are you doing stomping on that bitch stomping on it I don't know honestly I think uh I will say this to people that may uh get upset about certain areas being no boat motors it's better than having a draw yeah and I don't and I'm actually really glad they haven't gone to the draw because I there's no way that they're gonna police that and I don't think it's a great thing for any of our WMAs. Well at least not the ones we have down here the ones that I know of.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

Yeah because see I don't really know anything about any other WMAs learning down here.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

I I don't personally well you know a lot of them they only have like one point of entry and they maybe they can police it a little bit better. Or they only have one or two but like by meat is so freaking big and there's so many and then there's private ground where you can get in from and stuff and it's that would be a nightmare. We would have to staff so many people down there to say I don't that's the reason why I don't think they'll ever do it.

SPEAKER_01 48:46

I believe the only thing that would push their hand to do it is and I'm just gonna say it the boat race the boat racing and the injuries and that come along with that is the only thing that would I mean I I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Push their hand to do that. No I 100% understand what you're saying but at the same time that's not going to fucking stop that shit from happening because accidents happen so I mean well yes accidents happen but there's been more boat accidents down there happen on the way out.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

There would be somebody coming in and somebody coming out and then they run into each other.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Like let's put it in this well I mean that would be another thing I mean because like the purpose of a draw is limiting how many people are there. Yeah and that's what I'm saying like accidents happening having too many people crammed in that would go along with that. But also that's a loss of revenue too well let's just say you give which how much of the revenue do you think comes from like private guided or public land hunters?

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Oh man I would say man I don't even know I couldn't even begin my in my in my in my dreams though or my ideas I'm thinking I would be like 70 30 70 30 public state public land yeah public hunters I don't think so really but but what you have to look at is I think that's way off you have to look at the number of licenses sold in state or out of state and but also a lot of the out of state people are public land hunters too. If we already cut that revenue in half because we've limited the days that they can show up and then you have to look at them coming down here and spending money in our general area and they're paying tax dollars while they do it.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

Yeah our stupid fucking taxes we got here Jesus Christ. But I mean I don't know I feel like most of your public land hunters are against guide services you have to you I think so too but I think there's a shit ton of out of state public land hunters there.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Yeah like a lot more than you would think there are especially over on the river. Yeah yeah I think it's pretty still wide open for them on the river I think they got relimited days as well no I think they only did that on like five beta state property but also you gotta think guys services are a business it's a business yeah yeah you know like where's those tax dollars really going you know like we're over in Umfree you know whatever. Oh just I guess still Arkansas County but it's you know like and then some people they may not you know like if somebody's actually coming to town and like they're a public land hunter they're usually having to come to town to eat they're having to spend dollars to you know like you know they're not just giving it to one business to decide to distribute that money. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

But what am I seeing out of it here and I don't know I was reading something that said the number the amount that it brings to Stuttgart duck season alone.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

Oh it's way more than you think I heard it the other day I think it's close to like uh 60 million eighty million I know what it was crazy I guess if you include Max because it did get annexed into town well yeah so it's probably about it's probably about 90 million maybe a hundred are you looking her up Colton because it bothered me $4 million a day a day five times that 60 days 120 million yeah that's pretty wild that's crazy to think about it and then but we're also but we're 50 we're straight up 5050 off of farming revenue and then that yeah yeah I mean that's all the Jesus Christ is that the state or is that Stuckard that's Stuart City of Stuckard that's how much money comes I looked up City of Stuttgart yeah Jesus Christ so that doesn't even take in like the Valls Bluff or Clarendon Clarendon's a big spot for public land hunters DWIT yeah there's so there's so many public land spots that they got little well if they as long as they have a business there. I mean it's you have to look at towns that have businesses and stuff to benefit from it. Like you know Casco doesn't have any Clarendon is you know they're gonna hit Frankly yeah well see there's a lot there's a lot of guide services up kind of headed towards northeast Arkansas I mean yeah I mean exactly uh a little bit that four million that four million dollars a day would be basically somebody comes into Stuttgart and buys a meal or stays at a hotel room or something like that and it and the not the town's making that money but a business in Stuttgart's making that money you know I mean wow laugh like you can wonder what the town makes off that because our sales tax 10% of that 10 and a half 10 and a half percent and a half like a day what 40 thousand before I do this math calculator no four million you said a day times ten point five percent four hundred and twenty thousand what did I say 40,000 fucking off and I I thought I was Christ whatever yep no we're not getting on that subject but anyway let's not get on that but that's a lot of no I mean I don't know exactly I I I I don't know how all that shit works so I'm not gonna speculate on fucking anything at all.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

No none of us are trying to speculate on anything but that's crazy for 60 days you're making a hundred conservatively saying 120 million. So much as influ influxing in that's the influx here yeah you're not making that button or higher but so that's really it's not that far fetched because you got our highest paid guide service in this community is like two thousand dollars a day. Yeah. And I guess if you think about I guess riceling and producers would be included in that too no because they're farming.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

But I get well I mean they may not they may not separate it because they might still be doing business during uh did you put how much I said right delivery generator estimated I said duck season duck season in Stuttgart and it says average of four million dollars a day.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

So it's bringing that in on top on top of I would hope that they on top of what the town's already producing within itself.

SPEAKER_00 55:57

And that was the AI. So they I mean AI takes a little bit of everything and gives you a pretty good estimate but Jesus 4200 off taxes ain't fucking bad.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

I think you can sell a lot of crops during so if that number is included that's probably the reason why and that number might be way fucking off we don't know but just for this singular singular point that's a big fucking number but I mean just look at how many people like the traffic you notice the traffic in like this time of year.

SPEAKER_01 56:29

Yeah like we're zipping and then you gotta spread that out over a lot of businesses.

SPEAKER_00 56:34

Oh 100% no yeah like no I I know I'm just restaurants all the little shops no what I'm getting at is the obviously the restaurants Max Ferry Wings we even seen down the road we're big benefactors during that time.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

Sure absolutely but what I'm saying is just the tax dollars oh yeah yeah yeah yeah listen I pay my taxes but fuck you uncle Sam I mean I mean okay like like me and Maddie just got that car the stupidest damn the stupidest fucking thing ever the stupidest fucking tax ever is hard is having to pay taxes on something that is pre-owned that has already had the fucking taxes paid on it. That is so fucking dumb but it's not there's a lot of states that don't back then and then you'll right there's there's a lot of states that don't tax tax and then you gotta pay prop fucking property tax that's already I think I think as American as American citizen you do have a duty to pay some kind of tax.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

I agree for roads and shit schools yeah I agree with sales tax. I do not agree with personal property tax because I already own it. Why do I have to keep on paying on it? Exactly and then I also don't agree with income tax because what if I'm not spending it and then you're just taking the money from me? Like what if I'm saving it or something like that. I only believe in paying tax on what I buy and then I think that's all right what I'm trying to say is I I understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

What I'm saying is why should I pay tax on something that has already been taxed like like this car. It is pre-owned it was a one owner vehicle before and they had obviously your previous vehicle's value deducted from that sales tax.

SPEAKER_00 58:30

Oh yeah so it so for you it actually it your previous vehicle I didn't trade it in.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

Oh but yeah I don't know how that works now on to pay the total you have to pay the whole thing you get fucked in yeah that's I mean well that's how it works I mean that's what you have to do it's 10%.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

I think you forget what our forefathers created the country for yeah no shit the tea was getting taxed yeah yeah no I mean but I I do believe you have to to keep but this is I mean you have to you have to fund your country is not your government to an extent.

SPEAKER_00 59:09

I understand I get it I get it I get that paying you to do your job but I don't want them to make the decisions for me on what I have I want to make the decision what I pay tax for I am pretty sure that uh so I either do not buy something or I can buy something.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

Every state that touches our borders doesn't have personal property tax. Louisiana now you have property tax but not personal property so your boat your camper your truck tax is after you buy it.

SPEAKER_00 59:41

It's so crazy I don't even know why we're talking about that but you can set up an LLC somewhere else say like I have a camper or I have like uh tractors or something like that. I can set up an LLC in another state that doesn't pay property taxes. You pay a lawyer a thousand bucks never have to pay property taxes on those ever again because it's set up in an LLC business in a different state the LLC owns the LLC owns it and then they it's registered in that state that doesn't pay property tax. So it's not a it's not a countrywide thing it's more of a state thing. It's a state thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:13

Oh I know it's a state thing as far as property tax goes. Oh I know because like me and mom were talking about it the other day and she was like yeah how's life been going I'm like man I fucking fucking Arkansas you know just trying to fuck me every way it can you know I mean what do you expect? I mean it's been doing it to me since I was a kid just fucking me. I mean but you know it's just like that's my rant. I'm gonna leave it at that guy that's my rant we should not have to pay taxes in this state on something that's pre-owned that's already had taxes paid on it especially a fucking car.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

We'll throw your tea in the river.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

Yeah fuck it fucking hate and if you and if you drink beer it'll it'll it'll hurt me to do it but I'll pour your fucking beer in the river.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

I don't give a fuck think you would hell yeah I would you could do that I could you don't deserve this beer thank you no I'm just that's my rant that that's that's all I had to say there's a lot of things come into play though that we couldn't even but that's why everybody's like man you why is probably I'm gonna have to listen to this podcast so I can figure out how we got to this point. So why are taxes so high? Oh because our road building costs cost so much. Well stop paying so much for road building costs. It really doesn't cost as much as it does for them to build I'm gonna tell you right now as many times I have to get a front end alignment the companies have figured it out the companies have figured it out there they're like oh well the governments pay for it I can charge whatever I want to yeah absolutely 100 fucking percent that's what it is a big part of it is but that's like stick it to the man.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:50

I'm not I'm not gonna call out which city this is but there's there is a city and you can drive down the road and you will hit a fucking pothole and there'll be people you know saying stuff about it and that motherfucker will never get fixed at least for six months.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:06

They'll come put some dirt in it or some gravel in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

Yeah they'll it'll last for two weeks two weeks just when you get used to not knocking the front end out from under your ride driving across it it'll be back there it is you'll hit it and got you bitch I mean it's like surprise motherfucker knocks your wheel off you turn straight into the front end place.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:31

I don't even know yeah I mean but it's crazy. It is crazy. Fucking stupid it's crazy man like I never thought that this would be the shit I'd be like 10 years ago if you would have told me this is shit I was bitching about I would have been like okay whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

It's kind of like that videos I think any working man ever in his lifetime bitches about it. Yeah. Because you're like man I want to keep more of my money I want to I want to spend more of my money on the shit that I want to I don't want to give it to somebody and they decide where it goes. Yeah that's the biggest thing. And but at the same time we do have rights to vote and that's supposed to help us decide on what happens with our money that we 100% agree that's the whole reason we have elections. I I do so get out there and vote people unless you're for taxes go away I mean I do understand that like we we need taxes for like roadways like I mean Google I get that you don't want them to show up on your doorstep one day and be like hey man y'all haven't been paying taxes in years or we need a new roadway you're gonna have to pay $50,000 this year so we can build everybody in this community's got to pay $50 right now. Yeah that would fucking suck. Yeah hell yeah that would fucking suck would suck but I'm just saying like for stuff like that I yeah sure with that's something everybody everybody uses like I understand that but like for a lot of taxes like it seems like they go to just fucking willy-nilly fucking bullshit even the government we don't know a lot of it we don't know where it goes you're right you're right just don't know don't know let me just let me just shut the fuck up before I honestly as long as I can do what I want to do I don't know if I give a fuck I'm gonna die one day anyway. Yeah we're all gonna die as long as I got the money to be able to enjoy the outdoors and do whatever fuck I want to do. And they don't tell me I can't do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:38

Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

They say your motivation for improving your country is supposed to be so your kids can have it better kids so maybe we're we we don't have the right mindset right now yeah but I I do agree with that yeah yeah there is there is something more to live for than your own life so I guess you kind of look at like conservation like I feel strongly about improving that for the younger generation even though I don't have kids. So maybe I should maybe I should I don't mean that I don't mean that I don't mean that maybe I should feel that way about like everyday life too you know yeah I know and a lot of times a different it's a big organic it's a bigger pill for us to swallow we can swallow the conservation pill because we're in it every day. Yeah and that's what we're but that but hey it takes different that's reason but America is beautiful because you have different people from different walks of life all coming here from different viewpoint of views and stuff like that. And that's what makes America beautiful that you have somebody that their strong suit is hunting and then you got somebody strong suit is building roadways you got somebody strong suit that's building houses or whatever else. Yeah absolutely or going up to DC and doing that whole fight. And we even have that in the conservation group. Yeah yeah even if some close friends you know yeah and but you gotta have those guys That are willing to go up there, and then you also have the guys that are willing to be here on the ground and walk through their woods for hours and be like, Man, I know I don't have a you know any fight in this, but I guess I do because I'm an American. I really don't like what y'all are doing. Or I do like what you're doing, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:15

Yeah, but I I will say a lot of times it seems like and I could be dead wrong, maybe I'm just not looking into stuff as deeply as I need to be, but when it comes to sorry, guys, when it comes to like stuff with like like okay. Calm, pony calm. When it comes to like uh when it comes to like stuff with like uh uh like out the outdoors. Like something changing like uh the oars, the having to row in and stuff like I understand the conservation on that stuff, but like that wasn't like voted in or anything, was it? Or was that just like a decision to select certain people made?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:56

There is when before they can put anything into play, there is a public meeting that anybody in the state can be a part of and they can voice their opinion. They have to do that before they make any new laws on the case.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:11

You can voice your opinion, but we all know what opinions are, Deborah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:16

So people, it's just like our senators and all that. We have people that are put in position for our opinions. Okay. Yeah. So like a friend of ours. I don't know if he sends you those uh things sometimes where you would do a review, like how do you which way do you want this to swing? Yeah. Oh yeah, the questionnaire. Yeah. And so basically that's your moment to push your opinion. Okay. I mean, I was just wondering if that's like a lot of people. I mean you can't have you can't have $200,000 people or 200,000 people standing up there at the courthouse being like, no, we don't want that.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:53

You gotta have one person that can speak freely.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:56

No, what I was what I was what my question was is like, is there a select group of people doing that, or is it like a consensus thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

Well, it's a board.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:08

Yeah. But is it can what I'm what I'm asking. It'd be like the House or the Senate. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:14

Yeah, it's basically treated just like the House.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:16

Okay, that's what I was wondering. That's what that's what I was getting at.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:19

They treat it the same way. Okay, even on the game of fish board and stuff. I was just curious. I I didn't know how it worked. Pretty much the same thing. But I don't know if you're gonna go to the book. Can I help you, Trey? I don't know if we vote for board members.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:31

Dude, you're starting to get titties, by the way. Trying to be like you, man. Hey man, who doesn't want to be? I mean, fuck. I mean, I know I do. Look at me. I mean, yeah, look at you. There's a whole lot of love to give here, everybody out there. I know. Jokes, Jesus Christ. All right. Tough crowd. Well, another oh, oh, oh, hurry. Sorry, sorry. I went to the Looney Beam for the first time, and it was so fucking fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:03

I feel like I've heard this story before.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:05

Yeah, I mean, because I wanted to tell it last week, but we didn't record last week. I've been so anxious to tell you guys. Please listen to this story. It was so much fun. It was so much fun. It is a good time. It was actually like that. It was my first time going to like a stand-up show. Yeah. And like they sent us front row. Yeah. It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:23

Yeah, I thought it actually really was like the small venues. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:27

It's really cool, cool for comedy. Like, because I had to tell Maddie, I was like, hey, just get ready. Like, you know, we're about to get boom roasted type shit. I mean, like, just get ready. She's like, what do you mean? I was like, it's coming. And like And Jackson took his shirt off and waited for it. No, it was a lot of fun. That's that, yep. That was my closing statement.

unknown 1:09:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:49

Well, all right, guys. Thank y'all. Thank y'all for listening in. Uh, we're glad to be back in here hanging out and uh talking our nonsense. Don't take anything we say factual. Fucking do your own research on anything. Anytime we get anything about politics or anything like that, yeah. Do your own research on the internet. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, this is Monday beer. This is all opinion.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

Except for USA versus I'll show you. It's either gonna be 2-1 or 2-0. Come back here on the Nope. It's factual.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:28

I can't wait for the page. From the book check. I can't I can't wait for the next episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:35

All right. Well, I I think I got us a toast, so let's uh close this out with a toast. And thank y'all again for tuning in. Hey, well, no matter how hard it is to get here there, here's to tomorrow for the future. Cheers.