Monday Beers Ep.77; Across The River

On this week’s episode of Monday Beers Podcast the guys hit the road and head down to Mississippi to chase spring gobblers with Forrest Rowe, Kathy Rowe, Perry Rowe, and Marty Roberts.

From early mornings in the timber to close encounters with fired-up longbeards, this episode is packed with everything you love about turkey season — the stories, the strategy, and the moments that make it all worth it. Between hunts, the crew swaps laughs, talks hunting traditions, and dives into what makes chasing turkeys in Mississippi so special.

It’s boots-on-the-ground, real-deal spring hunting content with good people and even better stories. Pour a cold one and come along for the hunt. 🍻🦃

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:04

It's not recording right now. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 0:06

Oh, it is?

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Well, this would be this would be funny to listen to.

SPEAKER_07 0:09

I had to get that in there.

SPEAKER_01 0:10

It'll be funny to listen to.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

I think mine's better.

SPEAKER_07 0:26

Uh just gonna come out off the gate and say it. We're doing something a little different here. She and Mr. Jackson Malloy are in the great state of Mississippi trying to chase a turkey or two. Lafayette Springs. Um, Colton and Thomas were not able to make it with us. And John, yeah. Uh and John.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

And John, John's in John's in uh Stark Vegas right now. He's watching he's watching Mississippi State play ball.

SPEAKER_07 0:57

Oh, look, he is in the great state of Mississippi. He was in the great state of Mississippi with a different goal.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

He's in he's in Starkville watching baseball right now.

SPEAKER_07 1:05

So we're gonna do something a little different. We just got done eating some delicious crawfish. My lips are still on fire from. We got we got a couple cool guests here. Uh one, Mr. Forrest Row over there with his freshly lit cigar. You look so good. How's it going, everybody? You look so amazing with that on. I feel great. I feel amazing. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

Glad to be here. Well, this is your house. It is your house. This is my house. This is your house. This is a good afternoon to do it, though.

SPEAKER_10 1:41

It is a good afternoon to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

It feels amazing right now. It does. I mean, this is like this is ideal weather, honestly. It's not too hot, it's not too cold. Yeah, it was pretty hot earlier today. And the ticks weren't being super friendly, but mosquitoes weren't either. Yeah, but this morning, God bless the mosquitoes.

SPEAKER_10 1:58

The mosquitoes are pretty bad. Yeah, no, that was rough.

SPEAKER_07 2:02

Forrest likes to talk about how the mosquitoes are, but uh, we're from the mosquito capital of the world, those guards. They've got more mosquitoes. Golly, they'll carry you off.

SPEAKER_10 2:12

Yeah, they're the size of bumblebees, I bet. They are. They honestly are. They suck.

SPEAKER_07 2:17

If you have a small dog or small child, you keep them indoors after dark and the mosquitoes will carry them off.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

That's right. That's right. But man, it's it's been a good time. But this is Saturday we're recording this Saturday evening, actually. It's probably pushing eight o'clock, I'd guess. Yeah. Uh right there at eight o'clock.

SPEAKER_07 2:35

7 and 51. Yeah, we're pushing it.

SPEAKER_10 2:38

Look at that. Getting dark. Yeah. It's dark getting dark.

SPEAKER_07 2:41

Um I'm sure you'll be able to hear the crickets. Frogs off in the background.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

We we we got here Thursday afternoon. Thursday afternoon. Thursday afternoon. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 2:53

Roosted some. Yep. Sure did.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Tried to get on them.

SPEAKER_07 2:56

We did get on. Y'all got everybody got on them. We couldn't make it happen. We got on them. Uh we'll get a little further into that. Yeah, we gotta wait on P-Row to get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

Yeah, oh yeah. P-Row's coming. He's uh he's held up at momentarily. That pot might be holding him down the king's throne. So, you know, who knows? I don't know where he's at. I'm just guessing. I really don't. I'm just guessing.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

He might just be talking. Who knows?

unknown 3:21

The can call the flavor.

SPEAKER_10 3:23

Oh yeah, yeah. Marty made him a call. Made him a sleep call, y'all. Oh yeah. I've got one of Marty's too. That that was mine they're using in there. Perry's got one. It's just in his vest. He ain't got it out yet. Yeah, that's mine in there.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

Uh, he's been calling on me.

SPEAKER_07 3:40

So Marty's showing it to him. I guess we'll just A.

SPEAKER_10 3:44

Somebody, he did say somebody's caught up three turkeys with that call this week. The last three days, yeah. Yep. Yeah. Three days in a row. Yep. Three days in a row.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

As soon as P Rowe gets back, you know, we'll get it rocking and rolling.

SPEAKER_07 3:54

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SPEAKER_02 4:37

I'm going to start from uh first to my left, Mr. P. Rowe. Perry Rowe. P. Rowe Outdoors and Guide Services here in Thackston, Mississippi. Lafayette Springs, pardon me. Our good buddies that uh we've got to be really, really good friends with. I can't wait to hear some stories from him. You know, I I've been hunting with him two years now, and it's uh there's never a dual moment, I'll put it that way. And then his son, Forrest Rowe, uh for everybody who follows the podcast stuff, he's uh he uh he trained uh Brooke, finished Brooke, I guess, and then Mr. Uh Marty Roberts, owner of Sport and Life Kennels, is over on the other side of the table right now. And uh he he's that's who Brooke comes out of is uh Sport and Life. So if everybody's ever looking for a dog like her, by God, that's where you go. So I'm gonna start off with uh P Row. Uh, you know, we've been coming over here hunting and stuff, man, and uh it's always a great time. That's what I'm talking about, Marty. That right there will get a man going right there now. We got we we also we're doing this on the back porch on a big old spindle table.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

That uh where did this table come from again, P Row?

SPEAKER_05 5:47

Well, when they put the uh fiber optic down through the county.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

That's where it comes from? That's where it came from. Well, guys, let me tell you. He said he was going to get a table to do this. He comes back by himself. He went and got this table by himself. I how? I have no idea, but he did. But we got Mark's Madness going on in the background, but I ain't gonna get too distracted. But I there's a big question I want to ask. And uh it's a question for all three of y'all, and uh y'all can answer it in whatever form or fashion y'all seem fit. Whoever wants to go first, don't care, y'all just spit it off. As far as the hunting world goes, how exactly did y'all get into that? What made y'all want to start hunting and pursue it uh in all these years?

SPEAKER_05 6:34

I started back in 1989.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Well, that's a good year. Yeah. You reversed the last two numbers, that was the year I was born. 98. That's it. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 6:45

Not to not to age you or anything, he just did.

SPEAKER_05 6:51

But anyway, I started it back then, and there was very few people in turkey hunting. I mean, it was just you go out in the woods, you had it all to yourself, just about. And I started out in Benton County, Mississippi. In Ashland, Mississippi. That's where I started.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Well, what made you a nice area? What made you want to start turkey hunting?

SPEAKER_05 7:18

Well, there's another guy that got me into it. So, um, yeah, Jim, he he uh he he said, you oughta you just need to go turkey hunting with me. I said, Man, I ain't got time for that. I want to go fishing. You know? And uh, and I did. And I was hooked. Right off everybody. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

There's something about them turkeys, it'll really get you going. Yeah. But you you've been coming down to Arkansas the last two years for sure, and duck hunting and everything else with us, and that that's been like uh pretty awesome time, I think so.

SPEAKER_05 7:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

It's really cool to see you you've just uh instilled that in your son as well. I mean, that it's kind of yeah, that's what got me into it was him.

SPEAKER_10 8:05

He's what got me into everything.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

I always told my mom was always like, you know, just just as a mother should be worried about her son doing anything bad or I was like, Mama, I'm a hunter. I ain't got no money to do anything bad. You know what I mean? Spend it all on hunting. You spend everything you got on hunting. That's what it is. Now, Forrest, tell us a little about your hunting stories about how you got it. Growing up into it.

SPEAKER_10 8:31

Growing up into it? Well, he didn't have a choice. He was not. Nah, I really ever since I was born, pretty much, it was nothing but hunting. Oh, yeah. My whole my whole say, you know, my mom and dad both, they both hunt. So, I mean, I from when I was little, that's that's all I've known pretty much is hunting. You know, I didn't we didn't really get into duck hunting very big till back when shoot I was probably nine. Yeah, nine, ten, somewhere around there. Yeah. We weren't really into big, you know, duck hunting, but we did a lot of turkey hunting and deer hunting still. Stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

But see, I know you're a big deer hunter. Yeah, I do know that. See, I'm not I'm not Trey's the deer hunter. Me personally, I'm I love it. I love it, and I have super big respect for it. I just I I have a problem sitting still that long. Yeah, you gotta pay for the things that's a little bit of a lot of things. The same way with turkeys, you gotta have patience, you know what I mean. Takes a lot. But um I'm a big waterfowl hunter because you can sit there and talk and carry on and do whatever you want to do. Because I I'm just ever since I was a little kid, I I could not sit still. I cannot do it.

SPEAKER_10 9:39

I still have a problem with patience. Sometimes I struggle with it as well. But uh we we had a we had a struggle with patience this morning, that's for sure. Yeah, we had a big struggle with patience.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

We'll get into that in just a minute.

SPEAKER_10 9:50

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Mr. Marty, uh how exactly uh I know how exactly did you get into the whole outdoor business and like I I guess just hunting in general? Because I mean you you own sport in life kennels, and most people who own a dog training company, they're gonna be hunting. So yeah. I'm a curious as to that.

SPEAKER_09 10:13

Uh, you know, like most people, my dad, you know, I st I started hunting when I was oh you know, when I was 10, you know, I got an air gun, and then we went from that to 410, from that to the 20 and then 12, and um I just followed him around, you know. And and back then we actually had Wild Quell, which we don't have now. Right. We had bird guns. That was great. And then in 76 I was 12.

SPEAKER_02 10:46

Don't be aging yourself now. Man, I'm aging.

SPEAKER_09 10:50

And we went into uh Murray's Woods, which is over near Colt. Is that in Ark, Arkansas? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and uh took me on first duck hunt and happened to be in Green Green Timber. And uh it's just kind of green. My first green head was banded. Wow, that's it. That guy right there, yeah. No, I was I was hooked, it changed my life, honestly. And then from then I was just completely eaten up with with ducks. And then when I was in high school, he got me a a lab uh and I named him Jim Bob, and and that dog really did change my life because it set me on a course of where I am now. Um couldn't afford to get into dog training professionally when I was younger because I didn't have the money to do it. Um but in 2008 I was a general contractor for a long time, a home builder, and then in 2008 everything started getting a little funky. Oh well, that finally housing crowd crossing. So it just took a big leap of faith and did what I always wanted to do. Um I was training before that always had dogs and uh it got kind of a lot. We always had three or four dogs around. Um, it's been a big partner for me in the business and uh it's been great. You know, we moved down to Oxford from Memphis in two thousand and five.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

Oh, okay. So are you from Memphis? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_09 12:22

We came down and did some condo projects in uh 2005 and 2008. I just took a huge leap of faith and jumped into what I wanted to do in the first place. I feel like I was called to do it. Yeah, I really do. I think that uh that's what I mean to be.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

I I will say uh yeah, I I will say patience and uh a lot of people don't have it, especially nowadays, but yeah, uh everybody who's out there listening right now, I've seen Marty work dogs, and uh the patience is that he has is uh uh uncomparable. I mean it is crazy. Unlike anybody you ever see. Oh yeah, a hundred percent. I mean like you see people I you know, as being a person who who guides in the outdoor industry and stuff, you see a lot of people want to bring their dogs along and stuff, and that's fine, that's great. How they do dogs, it's um you know, it it's it's a it's different, yeah, I guess, compared to how you do it. I mean, and even how I was doing it before y'all taught me the the I I'm gonna say the right way, yeah, is crazy. I mean, it it it made a world difference. But also, you know, I mean, every dog's different. Every dog's different and every I I I every single one. Every single one of them is, and and you know, I was expecting like my lab that I have, Teddy, I uh my big American lab, I was expecting him to be like the last yellow dog I had. And he was not completely different. He was hard headed, didn't want to listen or anything else. And I just didn't I mean hell, even Marty knows this. I just didn't take the time to really do what I should with him kind of thing. And uh, which I got him kind of at a younger age and stuff. He's pushing four now. And uh, you know, just it's it's crazy seeing like when you actually pause and take the time and realize every dog is different as how to do it. So crazy.

SPEAKER_09 14:27

Like forced. People are listening to me may not know this, but force works for me. And he's been a big blessing for me in my life, and my wife's life. But it's so just like with dogs, I developed young men and women uh out of sporting life to train. And uh and then they help me and and and and that that way we can we can do more than if I was just doing fifteen dogs myself. Now I can we can do more because I have more help.

SPEAKER_10 15:04

Right.

SPEAKER_09 15:04

Um but I'm always preaching to forest. Every dog's different. Every dog is different. And one thing I've seen with him in the last few years, and and uh and I think his parents would agree too, is his forest has changed from you know when he was younger. Well, still young, but but just a few years ago he was you know, and it's easy to do. It's easy to lose your temper with dogs. Oh, I don't know if yeah, everybody knows that. And so what's rewarding to me is you see a a young man that has a passion for dog training and you see him evolve. And he's much more patient now. And if he if the dog's not doing what he wants to do, rather than taking it on the dog, he's gonna put him back in the trailer and get him out later on and reset.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

I I I I I'll agree with that because even whenever uh I came out there and y'all were testing me for Brooke and everything, you know. I if if a dog wasn't doing, you know, you'd be like, okay, let's put this one up and let's let's go to this one, let's figure it out. Figure it out another day. Figure it out, yeah. Figure it out the next day. We'll test it and see what happens, you know. We did that. That was the whole process I had to go through of uh getting Brooke and everything to make sure I knew it wasn't it wasn't so much the dog, it was what I was looking for.

SPEAKER_10 16:21

I mean, when you even when you picked her up, it wasn't perfect. But we worked through it.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_10 16:26

And we, you know, oh man the next day.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Me and her are in sync. Let me tell you exactly. I mean, you spend that much time with the dog, you'll you get in sync with the dog kind of thing.

SPEAKER_09 16:36

Yeah, she's with you every day, isn't she? Yeah, that's his best friend.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She uh she hell, she sleeps uh she sleeps on my pillow at night. She'll she'll lay her head on my pillow. My poor wife, or I I say fiance, not my wife, my fiance. One day my wife uh is uh hey next March. Next March tomorrow. We got a date. We finally got a date. We finally got a date. I forgot about it. Finally. She says it's gonna be March 13th. Who knows? Slobota change, slob would change, nothing suddenly soon. So we're weekend of turkey season. No, no, weekend before. Not in Arkansas. Yeah, you better do it. You better get that straight. She knows because I wanted to do it in November for before deer season started and everything, and she was like, nah, it's too cold. And I was like, what about December during the split? It's even colder. See, I you gotta, when you're a hunter, you gotta revolve your things. I mean, revolve your life around hunting.

SPEAKER_07 17:40

As long as you don't do it on the opening day of deer season, like the last few weddings I've had.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

The last and we're not calling you out, but y'all know who you are. We all know they know. We all know y'all listen to this, so yeah. Y'all know who y'all are, but I mean, the weddings were pretty fun, I will say that. They were a good time. And I mean, I didn't miss out on much because I'm not a big deer hunter. Everybody else, maybe, not me. I I was fine either way. But you got big deer running around your property. True, he does.

SPEAKER_10 18:10

Do you not? Hey, at least the good thing is March 13th, I did set up a new deer store. That's before Mississippi turkey season opens. It is. It is. It is so you're fine. It is. Ain't nothing open right then, so you're good.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

That's true. That is true. Frog season's not even open in Arkansas anymore. See, you ain't gotta worry about it. Now it used to come in early. You ain't got nothing to worry about. Now, where are you frog hunting? Everywhere anywhere we can. You got on bay meeting? Across the street. Do you do it on bay you meet any?

SPEAKER_07 18:38

No. No. Can't let you know the street. Did when I was a little kid. When you were younger. Like on the bow, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

You know the bow there by my house? Yeah. You do that when I was a kid and stuff, but ever since then, no. I I just You do a lot of fishing there, don't you though? Not on the bow. Not on the bay. No, no. I've been doing a lot of my fishing just right out front in the RT pond. Just because I'm just now kind of getting into it. Yeah. And everybody at work, I know they listen to this too, but they give me hell because I don't know how to throw a bait caster.

SPEAKER_09 19:06

But you know, that's that that tells you right there. Yeah, you gotta learn that.

SPEAKER_05 19:11

Yesterday, me and Jack walked into the shop and he said, I never throwed a bait caster. I said, What do you think? What do you use a zebco? No. Spinner, spinner.

SPEAKER_09 19:23

Spinner reel. Hey, man. I'll use that.

SPEAKER_10 19:26

Zebco when I was seven. Shoot, I yeah, I used to use one too.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Uh I hear y'all. I hear y'all. Hey, look. The 303. Yeah, yeah. The 303, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 19:35

That's a classic. Ain't no shame.

SPEAKER_07 19:37

They all like to give me a hard time about my my kayak fishing. Oh. And I I threw a bait caster for a long time. You ever tried to throw a bait caster sitting down in a kayak? I bet that would be. You bird nest it nonstop. So I went back to a spinner reel.

SPEAKER_05 19:52

Yeah, especially the wind's blowing.

SPEAKER_07 19:54

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Oh, yeah. See, yesterday, I wasn't gonna say this, but you know what? I will say this. I'll say it now. I I uh I told Kathy yesterday, I said, uh, she was like, just throw it. It was your it was your rod and reel, P-Ro. And I was like, I was like, no, I was like, I don't think I should. She was like, oh, we'll we'll we'll fix it before he gets back. And I was like, all right. Whatever you say, you're the boss.

SPEAKER_10 20:20

Did he burn nest it?

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Oh my. I bird nested it every dang time I threw it. I mean, I did, I I spent more time yesterday unburden nesting something or getting something untangled than I ever did fishing. Yeah. Ever did.

SPEAKER_07 20:37

I worked my way back around to him. He said, I'm gonna go get a jigpole.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

I'm going to get the jigpole. And then uh Miss Kathy, she got she says, uh, she said, well, uh their their little granddaughter. Um she well yeah, uh their little granddaughter, she would throw it, she was like, Yeah, she caught nine or ten right there the other day.

SPEAKER_10 21:00

Jack ain't caught a bitch boy. Jack ain't caught nothing. Nothing. I think he's just bad luck.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

That's Trey. I'm I'm the worst.

SPEAKER_10 21:10

We had no luck turkey hunting this morning.

SPEAKER_07 21:13

I've said it a lot of times. I think I've said it on this podcast before. Jackson is bad luck. I would believe though that's what now? Okay. Okay, he might not be bad luck hunting with someone else, but if me and him are on a hunt together, it does it doesn't it seems to never work out.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Fishing, fishing, yes, except for Colton's bachelor trip. We did the we Oh, y'all caught a bunch of fish. We tore him up on that. That was speaking of that year ago, was that trout?

SPEAKER_10 21:43

It was trout. Marty loved a trout fish.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

That was my first time ever doing it.

SPEAKER_10 21:46

He ties flies and everything. I thought it was a cool thing.

SPEAKER_07 21:50

I do. So I I have I've recently started getting into and golly, I wish Colton was here more now because me and him both started on fly fishing, we're trying to. Figure it out. But yeah. I've never had more fun catching the smallest fish I've ever caught in my life, other than catching it on a fly ride. It just adds a whole different perspective of fishing.

SPEAKER_09 22:14

No, I agree. It's insane. I love it. You know, it's kind of like shooting a recurve bow. You know, it just kind of gets back to the basics.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Speaking of recurve bow, I uh uh a hunt I was on this year, a guy that I took, he uh he had one of y'all uh old dogs, Penny, maybe? Or something like that? It was a care dog, like I it was like I had Brooke. Uh this guy, he said he went with you on a hunt and uh is when you shot an elk with a recurve bow. Oh, yeah, yeah, I said Jones. Because he was asking where Brooke was out of, and I said uh Marty Roger. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, great friend of mine. Can you tell that story about that hunt? I I I thought that whenever he was telling me out in the field, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. You know, I've never heard You've got that skull mount there, actually. I do.

SPEAKER_09 23:00

Yeah. So yeah, so Forrest has heard this a hundred times. It's like my favorite hunt of all time. But uh, yeah, so we went out three years ago outside of Pagosa Springs. I've got a friend that lives out there in Colorado. And he, you know, he said, I w I and he asked me ten years ago. He got a dog for me ten years ago, and he goes, Hey, you need to come out. And I said, Yeah, I'll do that sometime. I didn't. I wish I had. I wish I had started when I was y'all's age, because you need Elk Hunt. There's there's if you love turkey hunting and duck hunting, it's like turkey on steroids. Oh boy. It's just crazy.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Well, you gotta do a lot more walking, don't you?

SPEAKER_09 23:41

You do, and walking's tough up in the mountains. I mean it is, but golly, man. So I'll give you the short version. We went out there, Ken Jones, who's a dear friend of mine, uh great hunter. He's got a son named Gatlin Jones, who's one of the we always laugh. We're like, oh, in our next life we want to be Gatlin Jones, because he he is probably the best hunter I know. But anyway, so Ken and I go out. And we're on public, but we got private access to public land, so it really helped. You know, we we were in a good area, but we had access to it. And uh my friend that lives out there, Chris Kelly, uh he invited us out, and so he was basically taking us out his area. And uh the short version is we hunted for a few days, they weren't talking a lot, and then we did hear one and we moved around. The short version is I stood behind a tree and couldn't some cover. They called 40 yards behind me, and he came off the hill just running right, trotting right past me. And I drew and I got about halfway back, and he's four yards from me, and we we stare stopping and we stare at each other. He's just looking at me and I'm looking at him. And he turns backwards and burns out of there, and I pull through and double-lunged him at seven yards. Oh it was so cool. Uh you know, and now I'm just I just I just wish, you know, I just can't wait to get back out there. We went the year after that, had another great hunt, didn't kill, but we ran them every day. Didn't go this past year, I was a caribou hunting in Alaska, which is absolutely that was really fun, but not with the recurve with the rifle. But I'm hoping to get back out there this year. It gets more complicated every year because the point systems and everything, and a lot more people are getting into it, but uh anyway, that's the short version. And how many times have you heard that? Was that 101? Probably so. Probably so.

SPEAKER_07 25:52

That's okay though. You you bring up that point system. Me and Force were talking about it earlier. So d this is the first year I've really dove off into turkey hunting. And so I've I put in Mississippi's kind of a weird state, you know. For for private ground you can you can just buy your license and go. But for the public you had to put in and for a draw. For a draw before April 1st. But you can put in for two different like I didn't understand that you could select your WMA. Yeah. And so you can put in for two different WMAs and draw. I only put in for one. Which which one did you put in for? I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_10 26:35

Was it BM BMVO?

SPEAKER_07 26:36

I have no idea. I'd ha I'd have to pull it back up and look. It was something that someone told me put in for this one. They didn't tell me to put in for two different ones. Anyways. Um and putting in for like Kansas is same way. Uh put in for that. Yes. It's it's complicated. Even if you have a even if you own land, you still have to put in for the draw. For turkeys or turkey for turkey. For deer, I think I think landowners get tags for deer.

SPEAKER_10 27:11

Surely, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:11

Well, but and they can they can only pass them to like immediate family. So like you you couldn't daughter, son. I couldn't give you a tag, but I could give my son or my wife a yes, like immediate family, not even my cousin.

SPEAKER_05 27:29

Not nephew, not cousin, like brother, sister, mama, dad. I don't even know if you can do that.

SPEAKER_07 27:35

Exactly. I mean, brother, sister would be mom and dad, that'd be immediate family.

SPEAKER_09 27:39

Yeah, so it's uh Well, I was talking to a guy recently, uh and he was saying that he had an opening in this club out there and for ducks, and I was like, How much is it? And they told me, and I was like, that's real reasonable, you know, I don't want to do that. And he goes, Well, the caveat is to join the club, you have to put in for the deer as well. And and and the deer, the deer tag you will get about every third year.

SPEAKER_07 28:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 28:11

And on those years, you gotta pay an extra amount, and it was substantial. And I was like, I'm not gonna do that because I didn't want to be, you know. Um but turkeys, he said the same thing. You're not gonna get drawn every year. Yeah. So the d the deer he said about every three years. I don't know about turkeys.

SPEAKER_07 28:31

Oh, yeah. Yeah, and something about whatever you put in, you get preference points or something.

SPEAKER_10 28:36

Now, what turkeys are up there? Is it it's not easters, is it? Is it? Yeah, C A E. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:42

You couldn't I have no idea. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_09 28:46

There's a line. Okay. So you got now I could be wrong. I could be wrong on this. There are either Rios going up into Kansas, and then there's Easterns. Yeah, I think that's what it is. And then there's gonna be some hybrids, I think, but I'm no I don't know for sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. But it's not merriums, it's it's gonna be Rios and Easterns. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 29:07

Yeah. Now I I I'm so new to this sport. Um, I'm sure most of the listeners know. I don't even know if you know, Forrest, but this is my first official turkey hunt.

SPEAKER_10 29:18

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:19

Like, I mean, well, I say that.

SPEAKER_10 29:21

So the one yesterday morning was your very first that would have been my first legitimate.

SPEAKER_07 29:26

Well, I'm glad you got where I had a gun. Um what a way to start that.

SPEAKER_09 29:31

What a way to start, yes.

SPEAKER_07 29:32

And it was really good. Very eventful. Yes. Um that was a good one. It didn't quite pan out. Uh, Forrest can tell this story a little bit better. Uh we had a we had a pretty eventful morning. There was a lot of vocalization.

SPEAKER_10 29:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 29:48

I mean, a lot of talking, some good sights.

SPEAKER_10 29:51

Uh Friday morning, yesterday?

SPEAKER_07 29:53

Yeah, yesterday.

SPEAKER_10 29:55

Yeah, well, yesterday was the first for us was the first good morning that all the birds were sounding off really well. We had it was Trey and A-Rod. Trey and A-rod with me, and we we knew there were some turkeys around. We had heard them. They weren't the one that we got on wasn't very fired up yet. So we we we just knew we had heard him off in there, and we moved near where we had heard him, and we sat down, we called with a mouth call. He wasn't gobbling to an owl hoot at all for some odd reason. We sat down, we called with a mouth call, nothing happened. As soon as I pulled a slate call out, and I hit it, he gobbled 70 yards, 75 yards away. And as soon as he did that, I told A-Ride and I told Trey, I said, get ready. And it wasn't probably what, 10 minutes? 10 minutes or so? Did you hear him fly down? Yeah, 10 minutes. We yeah, we we thought we heard him fly down out in front of us.

SPEAKER_07 30:57

See, I I didn't think I ever heard he fly down. As soon as he gobbled, he was right on top of it.

SPEAKER_10 31:02

So like I thought I'd heard something. I thought I'd heard him fly down, but it also could have been the hens behind him that I heard fly down. He may have already been on the ground when we got in there.

SPEAKER_09 31:12

Was it was it were y'all in the pines back there? We were in hardwoods.

SPEAKER_10 31:15

We were in hardwoods. And so anyway, he gobbled to that slate call. You ain't gonna and then it wasn't ten minutes later. I I told him as soon as he gobbled the first night, I said, get ready, he's coming. And so I could see him, we could ball see him out in the woods, strutting out in front of us. And and finally we saw him get out of strut and start walking. And he came up, we we we had no decoy out with us that morning. We were hoping he'd just come towards the hand call, and he came up on top of a berm. And so it was a little bitty heel that he was up under, he topped it, and he looked and he didn't see anything, he didn't see a decoy or nothing, and then he just turned around and walked off.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

A Ron had a second to shoot.

SPEAKER_10 31:58

I mean, it was split second. If he took two more steps further, it would have been a dead turkey.

SPEAKER_07 32:03

It was a split second, and his head wasn't more than this this beer can't length up above that turn. Exactly. Yeah, I mean above that burn. That's my measurement system.

SPEAKER_10 32:12

That was a dead turkey if he took two more steps. Yes. Two more. And and I mean, and even when he turned around and walked back, he still kept gobbling to us, and it sounded like he was coming back. Yeah. And then all of a sudden a hen sounded off behind him. And then that screwed us up. No.

SPEAKER_07 32:27

If she hadn't fired up on the other side, he would have came back in the middle. He would have came back, he would have been dead. He'd have come a little further.

SPEAKER_10 32:33

But I mean, he that hen sounded off and she could walk to him and we couldn't.

SPEAKER_09 32:38

So let me ask you this. So when you when you said you yelped at him, did you yelp one time and stop, or did you keep talking to him?

SPEAKER_10 32:48

No, I just it's just a little on the on the slate call. Just, you know, yelp, yelp, yelp, yelp, yelp, yup, yep, yep, yep. Just you know, just a yeah, just it was a you know, it was a steady amount. You know, I just I didn't do it too long.

SPEAKER_09 33:02

No, you didn't you weren't cutting or anything, just kind of soft stuff.

SPEAKER_10 33:05

Yeah, just soft stuff. Just I mean, and it like I said, he the mouth call, he did not gobble to the mouth call. No. It was called. Now there was a different bird that was that was answering to the mouth call further off, but he would not. And as soon as I pulled the slate call out and I hit it that first time, he gobbled. I don't know if it was a different pitch or what.

SPEAKER_07 33:24

Now you you started cutting a little harder whenever that hen fired up on the other side of the side.

SPEAKER_10 33:29

Yeah, when that hen fired up, that's when I started trying to get louder than she was. I was trying to I was trying to tick her off. I was trying to make her mad so she would come running towards us and bring him with her. Yeah. Because that will happen. They they will get ticked off and they will run to you and they will bring that guy. If that goblin wants to be with her, he will she'll bring her with her.

SPEAKER_03 33:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 33:49

So I mean that that's what that's what I was hoping would happen. That's not what happened. But hey Rod with the pop top. Go ahead, Mark.

SPEAKER_09 34:01

He he said something there though that in uh I think most turkey hunters know this, but but it it's good to be professional on different types of calls, you know. Instead of just going it's one type of call, because you never know.

SPEAKER_10 34:13

Yeah, but I mean if I wasn't a pitch, you know, if I wasn't swapped up, then we wouldn't, you know, he may have never come to us. He may have just gotten with that hand behind him and been done. Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_09 34:22

If I wasn't swapped, it's kind of like sexy voices or something, you know. Some of them like you know what speaking of that, uh the thing now hold on, Kathy, I I gotta get my clean up.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

Oh, okay. The the the thing that really can I'm I'm about to throw everybody for a whirl here.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Thing that really confuses me about the uh the Eastern turkey bird is that Yeah, turkey birds in general, they Well, Easterns, in my opinion, are the hardest to get.

SPEAKER_10 34:54

Just bear with me, just bear with me.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

It's not too vulgar, but I mean you know, they they get bread. Right? They go out to get bread, and then they just go off to be single moms. I don't get that. I man, that's just turkey.

SPEAKER_04 35:10

I mean, d I it it blows my mind. I don't understand it. You know, I mean, like, as humans.

SPEAKER_10 35:18

You might be the first person that's ever thought about that. Well, I'm out.

SPEAKER_04 35:23

It's a valid point.

SPEAKER_10 35:24

It's a very valid point. That is a valid point.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

It is 13 pulp. There you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_04 35:30

I mean, where's daddy? Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 35:34

It's making you think. It's making you think. Let's think about this though. He's basically got a harem. So if when they split up, it's like, you know, where's he gonna go? He's gonna go over here, he's gonna go over there, he's gonna go. He's gonna go to another end. He's gonna go to the other end.

SPEAKER_04 35:53

Well, he ain't gonna sit around and wait around on her to come back. She ain't coming back.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm telling y'all, y'all just y'all sleep on that and get back to me, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_09 36:04

I mean, that's you know, an ostrich now, they they I think they mate, and then he's he hangs out and protects them. You know, you can't do that if you've got ten girlfriends.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

So well, yeah, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_05 36:16

Well, Easton's got like 14 to 50.

SPEAKER_09 36:19

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Yeah, I he powered to him.

SPEAKER_09 36:23

I saw one that had 50, we named him P Row. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Man, guys, I've got to tell a story real quick. Uh, so I I met the Rose through Alex and uh A-Rod. Everybody knows him as A-Rod. I call him Alex from time to time. Great guy.

SPEAKER_07 36:43

I think it's funny. Everyone here, everyone that listens knows.

SPEAKER_10 36:47

Everybody I've met through A-Rod, pretty much.

SPEAKER_07 36:49

Well, uh, everyone who listens to this knows his name, but I don't think they've ever heard his voice.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Nobody's ever heard. He won't talk on the podcast. You don't want to. A Right, come on. Come on, Bubba. There you go. Come on. He's fixing things. This is a really good friend of mine, by the way. Great guy. Like a guy that'll be in my wedding, and he he's just terrified to talk of talk on. There you go. Yeah, we'll take that. We'll take that. So he's been taking all the pictures tonight, too. But so I I met the rose through Alex, and we uh we've been friends since, man, long, long, long, long time. Uh I'm telling my age with that one. But uh excuse me, and we had done, he was like, well, let's go over there and do it. And so I kind of invited myself along, more or less. I did. I did. I won't lie to you, but I've had some great friendships come out of it. You know, I mean, that's my bad. And uh and I came and we saw and we conquered, kind of. Uh as soon, we weren't even outside of Oxford city limits. He was showing me all this cool stuff around Oxford, and we we had been on birds and been on birds and been on birds, and P Row and Miss Kathy had walked back. And Miss Kathy tell me.

SPEAKER_10 38:12

Keep in mind, this was this was a couple hours after y'all left. Not bad. Not bad. Not even. Not even that. 45 minutes. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

They weren't even, they were just outside of Oxford. They FaceTime us and is like, look at this. Kathy, Kathy's like, woo. She had done laid one down right where we were hunting.

SPEAKER_10 38:33

Right where me and A-Rod had been hunting.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right where y'all had been hunting.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

She's kind of famous for that.

SPEAKER_10 38:39

Hey, Miss Kathy, you can talk to me. We weren't here. See, we were hoping that was gonna happen this afternoon until we walked back there and Trey was back there. I thought there was a stranger back there. I was just gonna come unglued. I about lost the bigger.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Well, to be fair, me and A-Rod, as soon as we we me and we finished the Pinky Blinders movie today. If anybody's a fan of that, you know, I mean, Pinky Blinders, Pinky Blinders.

SPEAKER_10 39:00

I had to go take a test.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

I love that. I love it. But as soon as we finished that, Trey had started sawing logs over here on the swing set for about 10 or 15 minutes, and I was like, well, should we wake up Trey?

SPEAKER_07 39:12

And A-Rod was like, Well, it's trying to get it. It's not a swing set. It's a pork swing. Yeah, yeah. All right. I wasn't just Neanderthon. It was pretty comfortable until that sun started heating me up. But I woke up and I looked around and I knew, and I didn't see them standing around. I said, ah, they left me. And I looked around and all their stuff's gone. I went, well, I guess I'm gonna meander back down here, back behind the house. And I I knew as I walked down there, I was like, everyone's gonna get back, and either they're gonna think I went with Jackson and A Rod, or they're just not gonna know where I was.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

P Row thought you were still asleep in the house. I thought he was with y'all. I thought he was with y'all. I said, I said, no, Bub, he ain't on the backport swinging. I hell I even went and checked up in your bedroom. Yeah, what nobody knew Perry, so I was like, I had to pick up in there.

SPEAKER_10 40:11

I had to pick up the crawfish that we ate.

SPEAKER_07 40:12

Hey, don't don't leave me around. I would go on a walkabout. Uh, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_10 40:17

No lie, no lie. I walked back there and I saw Trey standing in that pipeline, and I thought it was somebody random. And I got so mad. I was about to lose it. I thought somebody was tripping. This morning when we were coming through there walking, we had to where somebody had been on there that wasn't supposed to be on there.

SPEAKER_07 40:34

I didn't even think about that. We'd already had that experience.

SPEAKER_10 40:38

Trey was somebody that wasn't supposed to be there, and I got so mad. He was done pissed in his piss bottle. Who was pissing in that piss? Somebody pissed in a bottle.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

He done found who was pissing in that water. That was my piss bottle. Boy, he was mad this morning that we're gonna do it. Boy, he found that bottle this morning. That ain't that ain't right. Nobody's not somebody not supposed to be over here. Because we all carry our stuff out. Exactly. Exactly.

unknown 41:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Uh, but no, last year, guys, man, that was such a good time. We we got to get over here with the rows and everything. Let me get a little bit closer. There we go. Oh, yeah. Soothing voice, everybody. I know. But uh, K. Rowe, can you introduce yourself, please, ma'am? For everybody out there listening. Because I mean, you you've been a you've been a big person in my life here recently, so I mean, I'd like everybody to meet you as well.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

I'm Kathy Rowe. Perry's wife.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

Pyrie's wife. My mom.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Forrest's mama.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Forrest's mama. Yep. And she is a turkey killing go-getter.

SPEAKER_10 41:43

She is.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

And some deer from time to time.

SPEAKER_10 41:46

Yep, yep, my dear. Virtually my dear. Yep, virtually my dear.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

You said you were gonna take a nap, and I said, I'm going back there. You could I said, if it steps out, I'm gonna shoot.

SPEAKER_10 42:00

Somehow she always kills my deer. Somehow. She went up and up and went. And Marty knows that better than anybody because I would tell him, hey, I've got this deer on camera.

SPEAKER_09 42:11

He's showing me cameras. Oh, yeah. I saw him camera pictures. I'm gonna go get him staff new. Oh, look at it. He was after this deer for like two months. Almost got him in both. Feeding him, keeping him well fed. I mean, doing the whole nine season, but the pin light was out on his bow, so he was Oh, yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:29

But I did have him mounted and I hung him in his room.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

That is the biggest you ever.

SPEAKER_10 42:39

Yeah, I put so many hours in on that bitch.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

That's right, that right there is why we love K Row.

SPEAKER_10 42:45

There's a K we love. Do not invite her to your place, but she will kill your target buck. Do not do it.

SPEAKER_07 42:53

It will happen. And have it mounted and hung in your room and corrupted in your face.

SPEAKER_00 42:59

I have it mounted just so I could put it in his room. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 43:02

Oh man. Yeah, that's the biggest slap in the face every time I go upstairs. Every time I go to sleep. Look right at me. You have to look right at me. He's looking right at me.

SPEAKER_09 43:10

I promise you, he had tears in his eyes. He told me his mama had killed his deer.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Oh man. I have not had that happen to me yet, but the deer I've had I had on camera this past year, he hadn't been back in a while. And I'm, man, I ain't gonna lie, I'm kind of scared. Because me and my fiance found his shed. And I was like, all right, me and her gonna kill him. We're gonna kill him. It's down there at my house where I live. Like, one of us kill him, you know what I mean? Me and her went, me and my mom went, me and a buddy went, I went, and uh, he has not been back in a year.

SPEAKER_05 43:48

Grant liked you run over him, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 43:51

No, different one. Different one, different one. Grant didn't know, no. No, Grant seen a different deer. Grant seen a different deer, yeah, yeah. He seen a different one because that one. Was like perfect. The one I got, I call him high and tight.

SPEAKER_10 44:03

That's right. You showed me pictures of him. That's a good deal. That's what I call him.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Three years with him.

SPEAKER_10 44:09

Three years with him. I think this year'll be the year. I haven't seen him in a while. This year'll be the year, I think. If he's not dead, I think. Did you see him this year?

SPEAKER_02 44:16

You had him on camera this year. I had him on camera early this year. Early, yeah. For a while I was like, he's chasing. And then I never seen him again, so I'm kind of.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Well, I do have another story. When Forrest was probably about nine or ten, too young to hunt by himself, we went back there to hunt, and he shot at a buck, a big buck, and he missed it.

SPEAKER_10 44:41

So that deer's mounted in the shop.

SPEAKER_00 44:44

The following weekend.

SPEAKER_10 44:46

Not over the bed. It's in the shop.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

The following weekend, he went to my sister's house, and I said, Well, you know mama's gonna go back there and hunt. He was 10. He said, I know mama. So I went back there and Perry had gone to the tripod and wasn't there probably 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

He saw him cross.

SPEAKER_10 45:08

He saw him cross.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

And I shot.

SPEAKER_10 45:10

They crossed the gas line.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

And when I shot him, he ran across the food plot and then ran right back to me and dropped in front of the shooting house. Perry thought I'd done fell out of the shooting house. He thought the gun had done went off.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

My mom said that happened.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

And I texted him and I said, I've killed a buck. Well, he texted me, he said, Are you okay? And I said, I'm okay. I said, I just shot a buck. He said, Are you sure? I said, I'm looking at it out the window. I said, it ran right back to me and dropped dead. He hit the ground.

SPEAKER_10 45:38

She said he hit the ground. He was a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

And that was the one he shot at the weekend before.

SPEAKER_10 45:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

And I shot it and killed it. So Yep.

SPEAKER_10 45:48

Same one I missed. That's normally how it goes.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

It's not hanging over his bed.

SPEAKER_10 45:52

If I have a turkey on camera and I show it to her, it's going to wind up dead. Well, don't show it to her. Oh, yeah. I've learned that. Well, probably. Let me know. He does not share everything with his parents. No, no. I can tell you that. No, I don't share everything. Not everything.

SPEAKER_05 46:09

He uh What's y'all?

SPEAKER_09 46:14

Somebody's phone ringing. He'll show me a turkey on film. Perry. And I'll be talking to you and I'll say, hey, I said, what about that big gobbler, that forest guy? And he's like, what are you talking about? Yep. I keep it away.

SPEAKER_10 46:34

If I don't keep it away, it'll get killed. Because I'll be either be in school or I'll be working.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

The other morning he told me he said there's a gobbler back there, but don't tell Perry.

SPEAKER_10 46:41

Yeah, because he'll go kill it.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

I didn't say anything, and then he shows Perry.

SPEAKER_10 46:46

Well, I always end up showing him.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

Why did you not tell me about that gobbler? I said, What gobbler?

SPEAKER_10 46:51

Yeah, because I'll tell her not to tell him. You're gonna tell me.

SPEAKER_05 46:55

And then I'll wind up telling him. I'm just seeing how faithful she was. Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

I always do that. I mean, birds will t birds and deer will test a relationship. That's a funny.

SPEAKER_10 47:07

Don't show Perry. And then a couple hours later, I'll show Perry.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

And then it's And I didn't show Perry, did I?

SPEAKER_10 47:13

Yeah, she didn't. I'll tell her not to if she won't, and then I'll end up showing her to be a too. I didn't show him. So you can't hold it. No, I don't, I don't try and I will tell you this. He'll show it to me, and it may be a day or two. Yeah. He's gonna show it to me. I'll end up showing it.

SPEAKER_05 47:27

Don't tell my dad.

SPEAKER_09 47:28

Yeah, don't tell him, don't tell him with dad, but then he'll end up showing you anyway.

SPEAKER_02 47:33

The funniest thing this this past season that happened, though, honest to God, the funniest thing. Forrest is over at my house, and we're sitting there talking about deer and everything. This for I I think this was early spec. So we were talking about deer and everything over here and down the road and everything. He's like, oh man, I just got it, I just got a picture. And and Perry was like, check the camera. Like, he's there. He's there. He's there. We pull up the pull up the camera.

SPEAKER_10 48:03

Oh, it's a picture of Perry mooning my camera. Mooning the camera. Oh, I'm in the camera. I was like, No, the thing is, they both were going. They both were going with it. They was like, hey, oh chat, you got a big buck on camera. We saw him when we pulled out there. We saw him when we pulled out on the gas lake.

SPEAKER_02 48:24

When it happened, I was just like, God, I was hyped up for it. Here we go. Here we go.

SPEAKER_10 48:30

I was pissed. I was pissed off. It was both of them. They said, I was like, oh, you got a massive one on camera. We saw him when we pulled out the I was like, I looked. I was like, y'all are so full of it. Oh man. So full of it.

SPEAKER_05 48:44

Nothing but ass. That's all. Yeah, exactly. That's all it was.

SPEAKER_09 48:48

He's got tattooed antlers on his.

SPEAKER_03 48:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Yeah. Yeah. It spells wow.

SPEAKER_07 48:59

Oh man. Look at it. Look at it. Big tempo. With whiskers. Hey, took a sharp and you made antlers. Yeah, with a lot of whiskers.

SPEAKER_10 49:09

A lot of whiskers. Your first turkey you killed, then we were in the blind. Oh, my first turkey? Yeah, that was that was a story there. We we sat there all morning not hearing anything. We just called every so often, just like me and mom and Trey did this afternoon. We just sat there and called every so often. And all of a sudden, one more time we called and there was five of them that got right near us. Yeah. And they all come up and flogged the decoy we had out. The same decoy we've been hunting over for years. The same one we have today. They all came and flogged it. And I be mobile. And I shot, I shot my first turkey ever off of it. And there was five of them. So we had four more sitting there flogging the one I shot. And mom had the gun. Oh, yeah. Every one of them were long beards. And mom went to shoot and she didn't pull the trigger. Dad didn't want her to shoot. He said, don't shoot. Dad took the gun from her. And he was about to shoot. Didn't you take the gun from him? You about to shoot. Oh, you shot. Did you miss? Anyway, I did that to Maddie this year on floor. I won't lie. She shot and missed. Only one turkey died. We should have killed three turkeys now. You took the gun from her and then missed. Yep. We should have killed a triple that day.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

I did that with Maddie this past duck season. Yeah, it was early. No, it was early spec. And I she it was her first ever Speck hunt. We were just hunting with Colton and his family and everything. We were just having a good time. And she she wouldn't pull the trigger.

SPEAKER_04 50:43

I said, give me the damn gun. I just I just grabbed it out of her hands. You know, I just couldn't stand it. I was like, shoot, shoot, shoot. She just would not pull the trigger. You pulled a P-row. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

I was like, pull the trigger. She would not pull it. My meanie me. I finally grabbed I finally grabbed that gun and just I was like, did you miss? No, I didn't miss. No. Very few times. When they're that close, that they're probably 10 yards in the area. It's kind of hard to miss them then. So I mean.

SPEAKER_07 51:16

That'd be like yesterday morning, whenever after that turkey had pulled his little stunt and turned back down the down the berm. He started gobbling back at us before said. For said, if he comes back up here, if he peeks his head back up, he's you shoot. If A Rod doesn't have a shot, if he takes too long to shoot, you shoot. Hey, you don't have to tell me twice. I'll shoot one out from under him.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

So so so every so everybody on the podcast, so y'all know, Trey and A-Rod, neither one of them have ever killed a turkey. And they are like, they're saying A-Rod's more than ready. He he set up poor Oh, let's tell that story about today.

SPEAKER_07 52:00

No, today. No, no. A-Rod's gotta get on get on the mic, tell your story. Don't let someone else tell it for you.

SPEAKER_04 52:09

Hey, I'll bust you out if you're saying a lie.

SPEAKER_06 52:12

We're talking today or yesterday. Today.

SPEAKER_07 52:15

Today.

SPEAKER_06 52:16

Well, after Trey fell asleep. Introduce yourself. This is A-Rod.

SPEAKER_07 52:20

Yeah, and y'all left me behind. Well we did. Y'all are rude. I was really hoping I'd kill a turkey and be back sitting here just waiting on y'all. That'd have been my that'd be my No, we were gone. Until they saw this trespasser down there hunting their jerkies.

SPEAKER_06 52:38

Trey fell asleep. We left him. I'm sorry, Trey.

SPEAKER_07 52:42

I really have to.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

We did. We did straight up leaps.

SPEAKER_07 52:44

This is a great nap. I'm gonna be honest. I'm I'm really not mad about y'all leaving me.

SPEAKER_06 52:48

I figured. I figured you were in deep sleep. So me and Jackson go and sit down in the same spot that me and P-Row sat down in this morning. Yeah. That was this morning. And it's kind of like a little wooded point that looks to an open field on your left, and then there's a road that goes right down your right side, kind of north and south as you're looking. And that turkey that we saw yesterday, we tried to reach, was about 90 yards from where we were sitting down that road to the north where we were looking. And we knew he was gonna come back out because it was dusting right around where we were sitting, about 10 yards away from where we were sitting. So me and Jack went out there this afternoon. We're gonna wait on him.

SPEAKER_08 53:29

I gotta ask you something. Is it true that you got on forest bike and he crawled and you were like riding him in? We're not gonna talk about the position that I was riding forest in. Yesterday, Marty, that's exactly what it was. That's what it sounded like. That's exactly what it was.

SPEAKER_09 53:44

He said I was on Forest Bike and he was filming. So he was walking, he was like, A video was made before us, if that's what you want to call it.

SPEAKER_07 53:53

From what I understand, it was a good thing y'all were closed.

SPEAKER_06 53:56

Um we got closer yesterday. That's a fact. That's a fact. So me and Jack are sitting at this point. We've waiting on this turkey for a while. Waiting on this turkey.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Three hours we've been sitting there. Got there about 11:30.

SPEAKER_06 54:12

Oh man, it was but I'm angry at him. I'm angry at him.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

See, I got hot and ticks were calling on me, and I was over it. And at three o'clock, I said, All right, Bub, I'm done. I was like, I was like, I I can't like I mean I'm I'm hot, I'm sweating, balls are hot. Yeah, I ticks calling on me.

SPEAKER_06 54:34

We'll probably cut that out.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

Well, I mean, uh the the podcast, the guys on the yeah, I I I was done. I was all in the wrong places. Yeah, I was done. And Rod was A-Rod said, All right, Bub, you go. Just come back and get me. I said, All right, buddy. I left him my sleep call and I said, All right, Bub, good luck.

SPEAKER_06 54:54

I am not gonna kill this turkey defeat me. I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

So what'd he do? He got up.

SPEAKER_06 55:00

I got up and I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna switch it up, I'm gonna get smart on him. So I went down to my left in that open field is kind of a bottom of the hill. I went down to the bottom of the draw where the field was open down there by the woods, and I sat up in the trees with a shadow behind me and hunted right there for the next hour. And I didn't hear anything. Uh called a couple times, sat quiet, just tried to wait and didn't see anything. So it was time to go. We're ready to cook some crawfish and text Jack, come on and grab me, picked up the decoy and start slowly walking up towards where we were sitting to go out. But I had to go right past it to go back. I get to the top and I hear footsteps running into the woods. Oh no. So then I start looking around. Looking around. Where am I seeing? What am I seeing? Is this a coon? Is this a pop? Nope. I see a hen turkey. That's the last turkey still sitting there where they were dusting ten feet from where we were sitting for three hours.

SPEAKER_09 56:00

I guarantee she wasn't alone either. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 56:04

No, there were three others with them. I heard at least three others dive into the woods and run away as soon as I saw that last one, man.

SPEAKER_09 56:12

So what you're saying is Jackson said, let's get up and walk around. And if y'all would have stayed, you'd probably kill a turkey.

SPEAKER_06 56:18

You know, if I could blame this on Jackson, I would, but this one's gonna be on me. Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

That was karma. That was karma. That's wow. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

That was karma. That's all that was. I just got new information. I'm on the phone with Madison, and she just said that uh my my surprise that she could not hold is that she got me a new turkey call. Oh, good. Heck yeah. She couldn't, she couldn't surprise me with it. Well, you can use it next weekend when you come back. I'll use it next weekend, baby.

SPEAKER_07 56:48

She's about to like you when it comes to surprises. You can't hold it. Hey, is is it a that's what I thought? What kind of call is it? Is it the wingbone?

SPEAKER_10 56:58

That's what I was thinking. I was thinking, oh boy, we're gonna know.

SPEAKER_07 57:06

No, no. Oh, the gobble tube. Oh, you got the gobble tube?

unknown 57:11

It's a signature series.

SPEAKER_07 57:12

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

Okay, yeah. Hey, Bo Brooks, he's a good call. Solid collar. Yeah, he is. Bo Brooks would pick up a piece of grass and call a place.

SPEAKER_09 57:21

Yeah, good.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

He could, he could. Well, thank you, sweetheart. That's awesome. That we're sitting here telling all turkey hunting stories, so that's awesome that you called. Is that MK?

unknown 57:32

I think Mary Cotter did the podcast today.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

All right. All right, I love you.

SPEAKER_07 57:41

All right, all right, all right, one thing.

SPEAKER_02 57:45

Go ahead. Hey everybody.

SPEAKER_07 57:59

This is the phone a friend. This is the phone a friend version. This is the most random one. Yeah, it's just all over the place.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

I said, Shout out to my fiance getting me a new turkey call. She knows me too well. Yeah, she knows what I'm doing. Did you get the gobble tube? I don't know what she got me to be honest.

SPEAKER_07 58:27

Oh. Oh, yeah. Well, I I need you to talk in the microphone, P-Ro. Well.

SPEAKER_10 58:33

Yeah, he's he's talking outside of microphones.

SPEAKER_07 58:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 58:36

There you go, talk in the microphone. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 58:38

Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. So the deal was Kathy said, Where do you I you know, I want to do something. Let's go hunt. I said, okay. I said, where do you want to go? She said, let's go behind the house. I said, alright. So we get out there, we get down to the gas line. We got B mobile. I got him stuck on that stick that I always carry because I wrapped my hand both. The big wooden stick. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 59:12

That's his walking stick. That's what he uses to walk with.

SPEAKER_09 59:15

Alright, let's back up for a second. So you got B mobile on your walking stick?

SPEAKER_10 59:19

I got him on my walking stick. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:21

Real high.

SPEAKER_10 59:22

So so it's above. So there's a hill that runs on that on the wheel. There's several hills like that. So if you hold it up on that stick, they can see it over the hill. But they won't see you. They'll just see the decoy button. They see the feathers.

SPEAKER_00 59:36

We didn't do that intentionally. That's just how it happened.

SPEAKER_05 59:38

That's just how it happened.

SPEAKER_00 59:39

Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:41

And uh we went on across the creek. And I looked and I said, damn, they up there right where A-Rod, Forrest, and all of them been hunting.

SPEAKER_10 59:54

Well, it was just me and A-Rod. Me and A-Rod were the only ones back here last year.

SPEAKER_05 59:59

Yeah, y'all hunted it every morning and night right in front of where y'all were sitting.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:06

Yep. We had been there that morning. And I told Kathy. I told her I said, get behind. That morning. A few hours before.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:15

They probably had heard you earlier. I'm sure. I'm sure.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:18

They were coming to look for us, is what happened. Anyway, we just call your mom again. Yep. Normal.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:26

Moral of the story. If you want to kill a bird, don't take a rod. Yeah. Or Kathy.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:32

Don't take Kathy.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:33

I'm kind of starting to think don't take forest if you want to kill.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:38

That I mean, well, hey, hey, we got close yesterday. Real close.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Oh, if we wanted to fold up a we could have folded a hen this morning like a fourth grade love letter.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:49

Yeah, but we could have. We don't do that. We don't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:55

I'm just saying we could have.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:58

No, we don't do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:00

This hen comes selling in. I mean, right at it was right after you did the fly down cap.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:06

We we hunt legally guys. Do not do not.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:09

She come she came flying in. I could just tell she she landed right. She was in the tree above us. And I can just hear Force said, be still. I said, do not move. And for 45 minutes, I got ate up by mosquitoes. All of them. Couldn't swat at them. I was a stone. And I finally turned my head and looked at Jackson. Jackson just pointed straight up, and I slowly turned my head and I had to break my neck to look at her. She was up above me.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:38

I was like, had you started calling yet? Yeah, I did a fly, I did a fly down cackle, and right after I did that, she came and landed in the tree right above us. Oh, that's that's she stayed there.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

And then she jumped the tree, and that's what she went to a different tree right above us. She was trying to find you.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:54

Yes, all the turkeys were already on the ground, other than her.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:58

It was eight something this morning. She's still sitting up in the tree. She was trying to kidnap her.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:03

She was trying to find us. She was trying to. She saw that gobbler decoy out there and she wanted him.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Not bad enough.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:09

Not bad enough because she didn't drop down, but I mean she was trying to find us.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

She wanted him to chase, that's what it was. That's not the way it works in the turkey world. We've already established that. She was wanting him. They get bread, they run off and be single moms.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:23

To be honest, to be honest, we've established this. I think she was wanting him to gobble is what I think was want what she wanted. I think that's exactly what she wanted. She wanted him to gobble and she wanted to fly down with him.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:35

But you had you had the decoy out.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:37

We did. Yeah, and I thought she could see him. She could. She wanted him to make a noise so she could fly down there with him and sit with him. But that never happened. So I mean, she sat there and she really sat there too long because she started to really tick me off because I was wanting to. I couldn't see it. I think we all did too much. The mosquitoes were tearing us up. The mosquitoes were and I was carrying. They were bad. They were bad. And I finally just like, man, I'm I'm not gonna be still anymore. I'm just gonna try and get her to fly off. And she would not fly off. And I finally I just I moved, she started putting, I was like, no, it's over with, you ain't doing that. I got up, I started walking towards her, and she finally flew off.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

I mean, he got about five yards from the tree towards her. Yeah, and she finally flew off. It it will, I mean, it was one of those test your patience moments that was that was a moment. If I would have had a duck call with me, I would have probably gobbled on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

I can't gobble on anything else. You give me a duck call, I'll gobble on it. Yeah, but I mean, you do that, and then she might have flown down. Who knows?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:42

Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:43

Who knows?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:43

Maybe something might gobble on a duck call better than a turkey call.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:48

Probably. I think Jack can. He was gobbling on an owl call better than a turkey call. Yeah, he was gobbling on an owl call.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:54

He needs to come out with the gobble call. They do. Man, that would be cool. They need to come out with turkey cows. That's what they're doing with the with the gobble tube thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

Yeah, both of these. They're monitoring. Pirate calls make so I think. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:09

We were talking with Will literally right before we got in the truck and made the road trip here. There was a guy that actually came in to RT, wanted him to tune that duck call for him to gobble on. Oh yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. Will Will said he can make a call sound however you want. It's so easy. All you do is just He made it He made it a gobble call. He said that guy, he said, that's the first time he's ever seen that happen, first time he's ever tuned one to make that happen. He said he was truly impressed with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

That would be the first time if I've never had somebody come in and ask me to tune a call for goblin. I've never had that happen. It it's easy to do, but I've just never had that happen. That was kind of crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:55

Well, you know, you talk about you and Maddie getting married. You know, that's the reason Perry married me because I killed a bird. I killed a turkey.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:02

Is that right? Yeah. I think he chose good.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

We had started dating and um he was discing up some land.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:12

Uh-oh. Yeah. In Myrtle.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:13

In Myrtle. And there was one goblin on the tree. That was your first turkey.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:18

The whole time he was running the tractor. That was with uh whose gun was that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:24

My 12 gauge. It was a 12-gauge.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:25

Wasn't that that mouse burden? Oh, I bet that's so much kick. Three and a half inch shells in that gun.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:33

I shot that bird that morning, and we hollered, we were hollering like who'd have thought. Like we were a kidding a candy store.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:43

She got that ring the next morning.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:45

Didn't waste a minute. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

He's the keeper. He was sitting on G waiting on O, is what that was.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:53

I tell anybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:54

He tell everybody that's the reason why he married me because I killed that bird.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:57

I'll tell anybody if you can get a guy, if you can have A bird gobbling on his own at the roost, you can kill him the next morning. I don't say that. I do. I say it. I mean I you say that all the time. Well, yeah, but you can. Doesn't mean you will, though. Yeah, you can. It doesn't mean you will. Exactly. But you can.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:14

Hey, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:15

I believe you. You know what? I'm gonna put you to the test in the morning.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:20

Well, we ain't we didn't roost one. Yeah, we didn't roost one this afternoon. We were supposed to, but we didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:27

Oh shit, we didn't. I didn't go back there.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:29

I said I was, and then we got to do another. We all talked about this like five different times.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:35

Well, hey, we talked about it, and by the time we was talking about it again, it was dark. Uh so we didn't start this. It was past roosting time.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:47

I got one more story to tell. So during spring break, Force was probably 12. The wind was blowing like it was today. And um he said, Mom, I want to go hunting. So Perry was working second shift at that time. Or maybe you were on third.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:04

No, I was on second.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:06

And he was asleep. He said, Well, y'all can go hunting, but you're not gonna kill anything. No, I had to go to work. Yeah, so he said, he said, y'all can go, but the wind's blowing too hard. You're not gonna kill anything. So Forrest and I get our stuff on, we walk behind the house. It was youth week. So I couldn't carry a gun. So it was youth week. Walk back there, set up. Set up.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:28

I was using dad's gun today.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:29

And uh I was sitting behind Forrest calling. He wasn't even calling yet. I was calling on his late call.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

Oh, so he was still pretty young.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

He was young, he was like twelve. And um so he was looking off to his right, and I was sitting back behind him, you know, just looking and calling a little bit, and we had, was it three gobblers or five?

SPEAKER_10 1:07:50

Five of them.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:51

Five full grown gobblers came running up, and I was like, force, force, forest. He was looking to the right.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:57

My gum was laying in my lap. I didn't even have it up.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:00

They come in and didn't say a word. They were focused on the decoy.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:04

And so I picked my hen decoy gobbler. Y'all had the B-mobile.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:09

I slowly is this the same B-mobile? Yeah, B-mobile.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:13

That turkey, that that that decoy has had more turkeys killed over it.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:16

Y'all, y'all gotta come up with the name for this B-mobile. B-mobile!

SPEAKER_10 1:08:19

That's what he that's what we always call him. You have a B-mobile.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:23

Uh well I know, but I'm saying though, you you this is personal. This yeah, this particular decoy, it could be Tom B Mobile. Yeah. Sure, yeah. It could be Bubba.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:32

We can name it. Bubba. It could be FoFo. Fofo, yeah. Fofo. Fofo.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:38

Fofo mofo. Fofo.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:42

But anyway, he got situated. Fofo mobile.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:47

He got situated and turned around. He killed it.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:50

I about shot his head off.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:52

He was probably one 10 yards from it.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:54

Yeah, I about shot his head off.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:55

And the other four just turned around and ran in the opposite direction.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:59

Yeah, I was getting ready to go to work and they come beebopping up the hill, just like y'all did.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:03

I said, Well, you were wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:05

Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:07

He was. I I will say it it the the hill back here behind the house, whenever you see somebody coming up in it, like if they have a turkey or not, it's just cool to see people coming up that hill. Because like it's such like a like a heartfelt moment seeing people come up that hill. You're just like, all right. Yeah, I think everybody's gonna be able to do that. Just being out there.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:29

Yeah, just Trey coming, you know, coming with them. I thought, what the Where did Trey come from?

SPEAKER_10 1:09:38

Trey just spawned with us earlier. He just all the all of a sudden he was with us.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:42

Well, that goes back to uh basically as soon as we finished that movie, Arod looked at me and he said, Let's go. I was like, shit, uh Trey? He was like nah. Let's go. I was like, all right, Bubba. Man, so no, we we we both agreed to just leave you.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:59

You had just started screaming. Yeah, no, no. Like I'm over here.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:03

Like it sounded like a change all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:06

I I needed I needed that now, but I could I couldn't have woke up. I couldn't have woke up 20, 30 minutes after the channel.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:15

Because I think this is cool. We hadn't talked about this. But how cool is it that the rose can walk out behind their house and hunt turkeys? Or drive a mile down the road to another piece of it. It's something special. You know? It's it is. I mean, nine most people can't.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:31

We're very lucky. Very lucky. And hunt deer. Exactly. We're lucky to be to be here and able to do it with that. And and doves and and whatever else. Doves, yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:43

Me and you did that. We did, and we shot we shot some. Yeah, because uh me and you were together, and then Maddie and P-Row were together. Because we were like, all right, Maddie, you go with P Row. And then me and you went off together.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:55

Yeah, that was a really good time. Yes, and and we got to carry Lemon on his young dog. Young dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

That was like one of his like very first like retrieves out in the field. Yeah, on doves, yeah, yeah. That was a really cool experience. It was. We came me and Maddie came over here for uh um for the football game, the O Miss Arkansas game. Yeah, and that was just came over here to hang out. Yeah, what damn, that was a damn good game. Yep. That was the one last year, you know, whenever uh over here in Ole Miss. And that that that was that was pretty awesome. Arkansas is no, but the the that's the thing, like everybody just comes over here and like goes out to bars, or like I say bars. You go down them squares, you go shop and do all that. There's everything we do that too, but I mean the cool part is going out there in nature with your with your I mean, you know, your family and friends and and getting to do stuff like that. Like there's there's not very many people in the world can say they do that. Yep it's something special. It it genuinely is. We're very, we're very lucky. Yeah, we're it's awesome. It's awesome. We're grateful to grateful to God. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:16

Yeah, no. So we're gonna talk about this as far as uh the NWTF. You know, that's when I got into it.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:24

Yeah, that's that's a big big reason that that we do this.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:29

I push for NWTF. They they support kids, they support conservation, conservation, and you know, wheeling sportsmen, you know, everybody that wants to do this. You know, uh I showed this to Kathy and I got forest involved as years going on.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:50

And I carry a kid every year to get them into it, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:54

You know, and I can I'm um I'm I'm excited for y'all to be here. Uh I am tickled to death. I just want to I I want to succeed on getting y'all a bird. You know. And it it's coming. And last year, when all that stuff went down, when Kathy, me and her went down there, and them birds is up there on the gas line, and this, that, and the other.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:16

That's just how it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:18

It's just the way it is.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:19

I mean, hey, let me say this. I think the lesson here is you need to take Kathy hunting. Yeah. She's holding it. Let her take you hunting. Yeah. Hey, probably I guess.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:30

I was kind of excited whenever Forrester and her wine up there's like, oh yeah, the real killer arrived.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:36

I guess if we would have stayed there the rest of the afternoon, we probably would have been coming back on Turkey. Yeah. We probably would have been coming back. If we would have stayed there all afternoon, we probably would have. If I had if I had to guess, you know. But I mean I mean, that that's that's how it is.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:52

And I mean, we run into that a lot of time, waterfowl, ducks, ducks and geese. Yeah, I mean, uh the the most common test here, dude. The most common statement is well, you should have been here yesterday.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:04

Because they were here yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:06

But you gotta think about the memories you make. Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:09

And that's why I do it. I that's why we all do it. We do it for the memories, whether we kill or not. We do it because we have a good time and we'd like to be out now. We love stories. All of our people would love it.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:22

I'll tell you to this day. My my best story was hunting with Forest and Limit and getting to watch Limit work.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:30

I love watching and I love watching this.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:33

I think we have talked about this, but that that was a completely thrown together hunt.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:39

It was. I was at Jack's and we just needed somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:42

He's over here, he's over here bitching to me. Yeah, I'm over here. He's like, well, we're over here bitching to fours. Yeah, Trey's like, we may not kill, you know, we can try it.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:51

We may not kill it. I wasn't mad. I was like, man, but like we can hunt, we're gonna.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:56

Yeah, we we may not do anything. My house, my house is an hour from like Trey's pretty much. So it's like he was like, Can you be here in 30 minutes? I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:04

No, we cannot. We're like 50 minutes away. We're like, well, we'll make it away. I can.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:09

I was like, well, you y'all just get here, like we set up. It was a big thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:14

We got there and talked to Trey. We talked to you and your dad. We got there and hung out with you and your dad for a little bit. Yeah. And we, you know, we then we just went out and got set up with some layup. We weren't we weren't hidden at all.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:27

No, it it was by far the worst hide we've ever had. I was like, but I know I know the geese are gonna pass over here. They do. And what'd we kill that day? Four? We killed four. We killed four. Uh two of those were uh pretty much flyover shots. Yeah. And then two of them come in just perfect, just like you wanted them to do. And they s they caught all of us off guard.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:54

We weren't paying attention.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:56

I threw my phone in the water sitting up. It was just all this, and we winged down one of them fell dead. One of them. One of them, one of them, it took him a flying.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

It took him a little while. He was flying and he just fell. He just dropped.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:11

And the other one sailed down to the bottom, and Forrest stepped out there and started working Limit. And let me tell you, like, I I I I love watching a dog. I hunt with the same dogs. I mean, we've we've got a good group of hunters that I hunt with every day. And all of them have dogs, and I'm used to seeing their dogs work, and every dog works different. So whenever I get the opportunity to watch a new dog work, it's it's just a whole different experience for me for something that I normally do. And I wish we'd have had a camera with us. The video would have that that flying leap as that bird tried to leave and he caught him, and Forrest was probably what? I was like, You were a long ways away, and I heard you like you were 10 feet in front of me yelling.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:58

I mean, he was hollering the whole way back. I mean, out of breath, everything. The whole way back. I ran after, I had shot at that bird two more times.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:09

But it was out there. That bird would not die. I said, screw it. I said, I'm not sh I am not chasing his ass no more. I was gonna send the dog and hope for the best. And he he finally saw him, and it was over with him. You were you were he was he grabbed him out of the air.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:24

Oh, yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:26

Finally, it was being beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

I mean, like it was that bird was 50 yards.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:34

It was 400 yards. Yeah, it sailed down.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:39

Yes. This first spec hunt where he actually picked up specs.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:42

I I remember Jackson looked whenever he first yelled, is it it's banded. Jackson looked at me and he said, Is he messing with us? I was like, that dude's way too out of breath to be yelling that loud if it wasn't actually banded.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:54

I about had a heart attack when he came up with that bird in his mouth. And when he came up with that bird in his mouth and I saw that band, I about fell out.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:01

God, let me put let me paint this a picture for you. He gets back and he's just shaking it. He's shaking it. He gets up on the left, he gets up on the levee and he just starts taking off his clothes that I'm gonna do. I was so hot.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:13

I strip I mean no, no, granted, it was it was a little warm that day, but he just started stripping his clothes.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:19

He was so excited. That must have been stripped there. And right then right there. We were like, dude, we were like the hunt over. That was the best hunt. No, we stopped. No, we stopped right there. That was the hunt. That was the hunt. That was that was probably one of the definitely one of the cool other other than seeing my fiancee kill her first bird this year, that was probably the coolest hunt. And the the biggest, the biggest thing to hurt.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:43

And it was the second day of early spec. And the second day. The biggest thank you to Trey for letting us even come out there and have that happen.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:50

I mean, that's the biggest thank you to you because if if you and Limit hadn't been there, that banded bird just been gone. Well, uh, because I wasn't gonna chase.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:00

I'm still trying to get my head around uh four stripping down. Hey, I'm dancing with a banded speck.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:09

He kept his pants on, it was just the shot.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:13

I thought it was like some kind of news celebration.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:16

I wasn't in my underwear.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

No, it as he was stripping his his top off, I should say that. Limit just starts rolling around next to the speck. Like he knew that he had got it, like he knew that he did something cool, and Limit just starts rolling around next to it. Just starts rolling. I was like, and Trey has a picture of him doing that.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:37

I have a video and a picture of him just scratching himself in the grass next to this banded bird.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:45

First specs. Yep. First band, yep, banded bird, and it was a 450-yard dish retrieve, and he jumped up in there and grabbed it. Yeah. I'd say it didn't get any better than that.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:58

No, no, it doesn't at all.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:00

That's when you want it on video.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:05

Man, they were out there so far we didn't have a camera, so it's not like a grown camera would would reach out that far. But like that was uh it was one of those moments that everybody talks about you you had to be there to see it. Yep. It was one of those moments, and I'm glad I got to share that with these those two guys.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:24

I called everybody. I called everybody.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:26

I was about to say I think he called you Marty, he called me.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:31

I even called Molly. You weren't answering. I called Molly.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:35

We were still in the field, he's making phone calls.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:39

I called Brian, I called Ethan, I called Phillip, I called Marty, Molly, Molly, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:45

He hit the phone with I I ain't gonna lie, I'd have done the same damn thing. I mean, I'd have been like, you ain't gonna believe what's happening. I mean, by God, if I wouldn't have seen it with my own two eyes, I'd say bullshit. But like, my God, if you if y'all know how the Sport and Life Kennel dogs work, you'd believe it then, because those dogs have no give. They they go. Yeah, I mean, what calm but ready. Yeah, calm but ready, and let me tell you, right then, Limit was ready. Nothing but it.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:15

That's what he was a he was ready, and for a dog that was moving that fast, what impressed me the most is it's I've been around horses all my life too in the cutting horse world and all that, and the slide stop, whenever you hit that whistle to stop him, and he slid, spun around. Like it the what wasn't a think about it, wasn't a slow stop down, it was a sit, and his momentum carry Lloyd is looking at you, and you gave him that cast, and when you gave him that cast straight towards that bird, and that's when that bird started fluttering. Yep, and he saw him, and that's all he wrote.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:52

He kicked it into overdrive and was over. I wish you I wish you were there, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:57

That was that was I will say, as far as moments go, is that what happened? That was the moment of the season. So when y'all are old guys, oh I'll still talk to you. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:10

That's one of my top moments of my life. I mean, that's the first band I've ever killed, been around that's been killed in my life. Really? Yes. I've never been on a hunt where a band was killed.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:19

I thought it was just like your first like band.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:22

No, that was the first band, the first hunt I've ever been on that a band was killed. No shit. Ever. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:28

I didn't know that. I knew it was first Limit's first goose.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:31

I've never seen a band in my life. That just makes it that much better.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:36

Wow. That makes it that much better. That was the first one.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:39

That's like hunt of the year right there. Oh, that's the hunt of my life. I mean, that's the first one.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:44

That's the thing. The damned thing was it was the afternoon of the second day of early spectrum. And it had been raining. Yeah, it had been raining. It was over 26 in the evening. Yeah, it had been raining all day.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:58

It had been raining. We were not hunting a feed. We weren't hunting a roost. We were hunting the middle. I said, they're gonna fly through here. I knew where they were roosting, I knew where they'd been feeding. We were just gonna traffic them and try and talk. Our goal was to talk six of them in.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:15

Yeah, it's just a buddy hunting. That's really all that was the plan was just for it to be a buddy.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:21

We shot up being something. We shot four specs, and that made my whole year, to be honest. Me too. I mean, that made my whole year. That one band.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:30

That was the yeah, that that was one of the moments that I think everybody out there listening can live for, is that moment right there. It's like it's those moments that keep you going. Even when you're having like bad days and stuff, I mean, because there's gonna be days you go out and you don't see shit. Yep. But those days right there and having those memories with everybody, those core memories, that's what keeps you going. It's like turkeys right now.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:56

I mean, that's that's what it is. I mean, even though we didn't kill that bird yesterday, we that I will remember that hunt for the rest of my life. I mean, it was I mean, it was picture perfect. It just we didn't have it set up. A rod, and he just needed two more steps. He needed two more steps, that's all he needed to do. All Arods. He needed the B mobile. That's what he needed. B mobile. We wouldn't be getting we'd be sleeping late in the morning. We would be sleeping late in the morning. That's all we needed.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:25

I I'll remember that hunt forever. That is the closest I've ever been to a turkey. That is the first time I've heard one in person.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:33

Oh gosh, so there you go. I mean, all right, so look, this year, first band for Luna's first goose. And then your first gobble here.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:48

And almost first almost shot shot. Almost shot.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:53

Yeah. I ain't missed yet. Hadn't missed yet.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:56

Hey, 100%. He hasn't missed. That's good. He hasn't missed that in a thousand. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:01

And the first the first time I've had a hen breathing down my neck for 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:07

That's the first time I've ever had a hen piss me off enough to where I'm.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:11

That was the first time that's ever happened to me.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:13

Yes, for sure. Me too. Me too. And I've been doing this since I was nine, ten years old. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:20

I mean, I've had hens come up and walk by me. I've had Jakes come up and walk by me, but having a hen sit in the tree and look you dead in the eyes and being like, do something, was the first time I've ever had that happen was this morning. I was just like, I was sitting there looking at her. I I I told four, I was sitting there whispering, obviously. I said, she, I said, this, you know, will not quit staring at me. I was like, she will not quit staring at me. I was like, you know, I mean, we're ethical hunters, and I was like, We are, yeah. I really want to take her out. You know, I mean, I was like, she is making me mad. You know, I mean, I look over at Trey and he just looks over at me and he just taps his gun and I was like, no. I was like, no, we don't do that. But I was like, uh, this bitch, yeah, maybe. No, not really, but she was being she was being antagonizing. What's interesting?

SPEAKER_09 1:26:22

Well, too, though, is it what time was that? 8, 8:30? That wasn't 7:30, probably.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:28

No, it was well after 7:30.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:30

7:40, but then she stayed there for what, an hour? Oh, she stayed there a while.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:36

She was there for a good 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:40

Well, she's like, from the roost, hit a tree right across from us, and then bounced trees closer to the city. So I did a fly down cackle. That's when she was right on top of it. That fly down cackle.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:55

I was trying to get a bird to gobble to that. And he didn't gobble to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:00

I was and she she comes up.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:05

She started doing that.

unknown 1:27:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:08

Let me tell you. All right, for the deer hunters out there, it's kind of like having a doe blow at you. And you're just like, oh boy, it's on. Don't you blow one more time?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:21

I blow one more time on key.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:24

Yeah, but you can shoot the doe, you can't shoot the hen. Yeah, you can shoot the doe, you can't shoot the hen.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:29

So she putting breathing. We do not shoot hen, which is clarified.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:33

She didn't putt until we got up trying to put her. I got up because I got up to scare her.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:39

Because I was sick of her sitting there. Every other turkey was on the ground. I was tired of her sitting there. I got up and she started putting, and I was like, uh uh no. I got I walked towards her and she flew off. That was it.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:50

At this point, we were so eat up with mosquitoes. Everybody's stiff because we haven't moved in and out.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:56

Your guides, Forrest. Should have had you on the turmoil. I should have. I should have. I I turned around and I told him going out in turkey season bug though.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:09

So me and him were sitting on the same tree, and I said, Hey, we should have brought the thermosel. Yeah, you did. Yeah, we should have brought thermosil.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:16

They didn't bother you yesterday, man. They didn't.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:18

They weren't bad yesterday morning. So I was like, maybe they shouldn't be there.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:21

Yesterday morning, they didn't have any of them. And me and P Row were getting eat up by them. It was a meat. I think it's me. It was about it. They bothered Jackson around. I got that sweet blood, man. What kind of thing?

SPEAKER_09 1:28:35

Yeah, they smell you. Yeah. What it is. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:39

All right, guys.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:40

Well, I'd say we cut this off and we go back to our regular scheduler functionalities here because we have been out of this for a whopping hour and 38 minutes. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:57

We could probably go another hour and thirty-eight minutes. Oh, we easily do it.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:00

There's a lot of stories to be told. For sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:03

We're gonna let it be here. Uh you know what? Uh the toast tonight. We always close Monday beers out with the toast. Uh I feel like I feel like payroll. You got another one in the chamber.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:16

You got a toast. Toast toast. So somebody kills a turkey in the morning. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:27

Candy and a punk top. And oh, punk top. And toast of Mexican and Ponti Top.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:34

Mexican restaurant pontip. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:36

Mexican restaurant, pontop.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:37

This will have to do. Oh my own from time to time.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:46

So you're my high.