Monday Beers

Monday Beers Ep.77; Callmaking With Keith Tucek - JKT Custom Calls

Colton Kerr, Jackson Mulloy, Trey Lisko, Thomas Coleman, John Stephens Season 1 Episode 77

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On this week’s episode of Monday Beers Podcast the guys sit down with the very first employee of RNT Calls, Keith Tucek, during the monthly Callmakers & Collectors Social Club gathering at the shop.

With collectors, callmakers, and friends hanging around the room, the conversation turns into a laid-back but story-packed episode as Keith shares what it was like being there in the early days of RNT, the evolution of the company, and some behind-the-scenes moments from decades in the duck call world. The guys talk about call collecting, the culture behind it, and the community that continues to grow around the craft.

It’s part storytelling, part duck hunting history, and part shop talk — the kind of episode that feels like pulling up a chair at the callmakers table with a cold beer in hand. 🍻

SPEAKER_03

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Heck yeah, baby. We back.

SPEAKER_03

Might as well be completely honest from this from the get-go. Yep. Because they're they're gonna find out. Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

SPEAKER_05

Phillies just beat the Yankees 6-4. Fuck me. Hogs are getting whooped right now in baseball, so you know what day it is, guys.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, yeah, it's a Saturday. It's a Saturday. We've been a little bit relaxed this week, I guess you could say.

SPEAKER_05

I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But we uh we also have uh got her in the way.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we did play Bag O the other night. That's kind of we kind of got sidetracked. We we had all intentions to record Thursday night.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that actually wasn't on Monday. It was it was on Thursday. But we kind of got we had Monday beers every night this week. We did. We just never recorded.

SPEAKER_05

We just never recorded, yeah. That was the only thing. We we were enjoying ourselves, you know, just kind of getting back to the actual groove of how we used to do it before we even started the podcast, I think. Just everybody just hanging out, chilling, having a good time. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, it's a it's a Saturday, and here at the tap room today, we actually got a call collector's or calls and call collectors social meetup. It's also we're celebrating 10 years of Jay Stevens calls. Yep. Um, you know what's surprising? Uh it's also 50-year anniversary for RT calls 25-year anniversary for Daisy Cutter.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I was thinking pretty years for Daisy Cutter, but that'd be off.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty crazy that it all lines up like 25 years of Daisy Cutter.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I'm just barely older than a daisy cutter.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy. I mean lucky y'all.

SPEAKER_06

He said, I remember when it came out.

SPEAKER_00

I used to back when I was a boy.

SPEAKER_03

You know, I never really blew a daisy cutter, though. My dad always forced me to blow cut down. I never had a daisy cutter. I have one now because I bought it, but a daisy cutter.

SPEAKER_06

I like that timber MV.

SPEAKER_05

I like the little Richie over the Daisy. Personally, Lil' Richie's kind of money.

SPEAKER_03

Little Richie's a lot kind of like the new timber and V, but the Timber MV's got a little bit more back pressure probably in it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I personally like the little Richie better.

SPEAKER_06

I mean they both have a ocean, but they both have a really big range. They got a good low end, and you can you can get pretty loud on them. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, if there's anybody listening looking for, but I will say, anybody listening that's looking for like a user-friendly beginner's call that you can also grow with, the Timber MV has been that call for the past couple of years.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it has been. Ever since we came out with it, it's been like no one. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

People can pick it up at shows and never blown it before, and they can sound yep. But yeah, so uh our our game plan today is uh this is an idea we came up with just a couple hours ago. And uh so we decided to set up the podcast gears since we're up here hanging out anyways, and we got some really cool guys in the building, and we're gonna go out and uh pluck them out of the uh crowd out there and have them come on and uh do an episode with us. And and the guy moving the microphone around making noises, not one of them. We're literally hanging out today. I mean, we are trying to talk away into being on an episode, but we're gonna do a full episode.

SPEAKER_05

You don't want to talk. We got Max in the room too. Max Max. He was on a combat.

SPEAKER_04

Say hello, Max. Wait, hang on, hang on. Uh feeling a lot better? The car drove really well. Uh just performed right as a team. Got it. Whoop whoopig. Uh Whoopig.

SPEAKER_05

But uh Yeah, so that's kind of the plan. Just kind of pluck people out from out there, kind of get a little bit of their background, their story, and things.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not even gonna lead up into this because we don't know who's gonna come in first. But uh hey guys, if you're new here, you know, make sure you like and subscribe, follow along with us on Instagram so you know whenever we post these, we post these every Sunday. So you can listen with us on Monday. Because we are those guys that drink beer on Monday, and we call ourselves Monday Beers.

SPEAKER_05

Not Monday Beer. We going? Okay. Well, uh today the first guy we plucked out of the crowd, uh callmaker I've been talking about here recently, is uh none other than Keith Paycheck Tuchek.

SPEAKER_07

Hey guys, good to be here finally.

SPEAKER_05

So man, Keith, tell me about the Paycheck story, how that came about. All right, so that I had so many people ask me, and I'm like, I can't really remember the actual story.

SPEAKER_07

So so John was partially correct when he told the story about my grandpa being Johnny Tuchek, and you know, similar to the Johnny Paycheck story. Yeah. Uh when I turned 16, my first actual job was at Max Prairie Wings down at the when they were out on Michigan.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And me and Gus Hensig, every day we had to sweep and mop the floors, and we would run around the entire store sweeping and mopping, singing, take this job and shove it. We knew we were destined for bigger and better things. Right. And so after I got done with that, I would go over and gravitate towards the duck call counter because I didn't know how to blow a duck call, but I was always fascinated with them. And every day I would push RT calls, and after his work, I would go to the shop, hey Bush, hey John, I need more duck calls. I sold all your duck calls. And they were like, What's your name? I was like, I just paycheck. So after duck season, John was like, Man, do you just you spend so much time over here? Do you just want to come to work for me? I'm like, Yeah, that'd be awesome. And when it came time for him to give me my first paycheck, he said, uh, paycheck, uh I need to pay you, but I don't know your real name. And I can't just write paycheck for the same. I do remember him telling me that one time. So ever since then it kind of just stuck and uh kind of just gone with it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, a lot of times I'll be like, Yeah, paycheck, and everybody's like, Who the hell are you talking about? I'm like, for the people who don't know you by paycheck, I'm like, Kick two check. They're like, oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm like, no, I mean that's paycheck, boss.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, and in the duck car world, nobody knows my real name, so I always have to introduce myself as paycheck. Like, oh yeah, we've heard of you.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man. So uh how how exactly, I mean, so you you kind of gravitated towards that, but you only that was back what early 2000s?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, February of 2000 is when I started working for Johnny. Okay, and then how long did you work here? Uh all through high school and a little bit part-time in college, so off and on for four to five years. Oh, okay, heck yeah. Yeah, it was started at the old shop. Um 800 square foot shop, the air conditioner was shoddy. Uh Butch's Black Lab Pepper, she would always come and do her business right behind me, behind the lady. Yeah, she was not an outside dog.

SPEAKER_03

So, whenever you say old shop, was that you're talking about this old shop that we're sitting on.

SPEAKER_07

And when Max started building out here, John was like, Well, we might as well go ahead and buy a lot and build a shop on me. Man, that'd be awesome. And and so that uh summer 2000 or 2001, whenever he could tell you more. Uh, we built the shop out here. I say we because I feel like I'm still part of the family. Yeah, but it was really cool. It it it wasn't anything fancy, but compared to what we came from, it was really fancy for us. Not a shoddy AC and a dog sitting at your back.

SPEAKER_05

Pretty much, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, maybe it's still the dog, but the dog was still around.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. So you just now so you've obviously had a love for the calls and the call making and everything since you started gravitating toward that at the early age, but you just now started recently making calls. What exactly put it uh drove you to do that?

SPEAKER_07

Well, um, so I work in the uh ag lending vicinity of the world, and and as as no all of you probably know, you know, it's been pretty rough. And and even us on us lenders and underwriters, you know, we we we feel for our customers and all that. And it at times it gets pretty depressing. And I knew in my life in 2024, things just something wasn't right, there was something missing. And so I talked to my wife, I was like, you know, I just I'm not happy. You know, things are they're they're just crappy, you know, with the farm economy and all that, and I she's like, Well, what's gonna make you happy? I was like, I don't know. I was got this wood shop, I've been making cutting boards and custom furniture for people. Um I was like, you know, I'm gonna try my hand at a duck off. So in 24, I spent all 24 gathering up, trying to rack my brain to remember, okay, what did Butch and John have at the old shop before the C and C machines? And gathered up that stuff, started doing the design. Uh, we'll get into the design in a minute. And in February of 25, I got my first working prototype. Now it sounded awful, but I went into the house and I said, listen to this. And she said, That is that what a duck sounds like? I was like, no, but it's making us making the sound we are on the way. And it the more and more I kept spending time in the shop and and working it all out, the more and more it came back to me. Even something as subtle as the smell of a wood or a certain type of finish would bring back, it would trigger a memory and like, oh yeah, this is what they taught me. Because I didn't want to come to John and say, Hey, you remember all that stuff you taught me? Uh, can you teach me again? Like I wanted to kind of figure it out on my own. And so that's kind of how that got started was a downturn in the ag economy and and just depressing times, getting through all that, and we're still in it, but I I needed something, an outlet to make myself happy to have that reflect back in the street. Yeah, I can I can go to the shop and think about nothing. Yeah, and and and next thing I know, I've got a couple of duck calls picked up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. So it's a good little outlet, too. I mean, it it is a very good outlet. I've always enjoyed woodworking. My dad had a shop growing up, so I got to spend some time out there with him, and he taught me a lot. And and credit to my dad. He he he was a big player in getting me started. He gave me my first lathe, my first set of cutting tools, you know, uh, because it had been a while. It had been 25 years since I had touched a lathe. Wow. So so big kudos to him for forty.

SPEAKER_05

That's awesome. That is so awesome. I I'd have been wondering exactly what kind of because I mean I had heard stories that you had worked here. Whenever I first seen you at one of the first uh call socials you came to, I seen you here, and I was like, everybody's like, oh yeah, that's paycheck. I'm like, Bill, I ain't got a fucking clue who paycheck is. I mean, cool. That's a cool nickname. I'll give him that, but I don't know who he is. You know what I mean? I mean you're right. So then uh I, you know, and after getting to talk to you and stuff and realize that you worked here and stuff and everything, I was like, and then like you and Michael, my stepdad have gotten to be pretty good buddies and everything. And just, you know, seeing how you've grown so in such a short amount of time, it's insane that like it's so impressive.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I appreciate that, man. Man, it it's really blowing my mind how how well received my cause and how the style has varied and changed just in the past 12 months. And and even just being honored here the past couple weeks with uh Ronnie Turner asking me to be a part of the build-off competition in golf closer this year. It's like I knew when I saw that happening last year, I was like, you know, my goal is like maybe within the next five years, I can, you know, maybe I'm good enough that they can ask me to be a part of that team. And here it's happening, you know, in the first 12 months. I'm very ecstatic and very honored.

SPEAKER_05

That means you're doing something really good. That means, Paycheck, yeah. I mean, because that that's like for the people who don't know Colapalooza and everything, that the callmaker build-off is what which of course there's tons of other things going on that weekend, but the callmaker build-off is the main focus. Is the main attraction event. Yeah, it is the main event that goes on. And it's like it's like Paycheck said, uh, anybody to be on a team like that ought to be honored. Because it I mean it's it's the best of the best.

SPEAKER_06

It's by invite only. It's invite-only, man. It's kind of like other people noticing your work and to bring it up.

SPEAKER_03

You know, the shows that you see where it's like um uh where they build the knives or yeah, like uh your master chef or something like that. It's kind of it's kind of it's built like that where we only invite certain people and then we actually film it and everything, and we make an episode out of it for the RT TV.

SPEAKER_05

No, it it is really cool. Uh man, I can't even like there was this one guy I'd never heard of before, but he did all the scrimshaw work. Uh was it last year or two years ago? Uh it might have been two call pleuses ago. Uh he did a year before last. Yeah, he did some scrimshaw work on one of the calls. Well, that was part of the uh criteria. It was part of the criteria. Yeah, because there is like criteria that the build-off people don't know until it's happening.

SPEAKER_03

Well, what's really cool about the build-off is uh correct me if I'm wrong since you're gonna be part of it, but we we pull in people that have specialties in certain things, like there's always a sound guy, and then there's a carving guy, and and then and like if they were doing scrimmage, then somebody's really good at scrimm shawl or that style of artistic abilities. And that makes up a team.

SPEAKER_05

So are you allowed to tell us what your specialty is coming into this?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so right before Callapalooza last year, I started checking looking at all these checkered calls. I was like, you know, I think I could do that. So I got in uh John told me to get in contact with a fella named Brian Byers, who hands down, may be one of the top checkering guys in all of North.

SPEAKER_05

100%. He's got a call setting up in there up top inside the uh showroom. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So I I got his contact information and talked to him about it because he he makes this specialized cradle that'll hold your call while you checker it. I says, hey, if you have any, I'm gonna be a Calapalooza. I'd like to get one. He said, I've got one, I'll put it in my bag just for you know, cool. And he comes with, you know, he's got a guideline of hey, here's some cheaper tools you can buy, here's some high-end tools you can buy. So if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna jump in all the way. So I got it, started messing with the first one I checkered is absolutely awful. I give it to my dad as a gift. Um but I realized I was like, you know, I need to talk to someone who's done this. So I actually reached out to uh a guy in Colorado, a Rob Rotzman, who does absolutely excellent work. And he helped me through, we probably messaged back for a couple of weeks, and he goes, Hey, you know, kind of look at this or look at that. And from there, I was like, you know, I'm gonna try to make a run of this. And the first checkered call I actually posted, I called the crown. I redid the entire shape, did some checkering. The crown. Does Michael have the crown? He's got the third one. Okay, the third one. Yeah, I believe it was the third one that he got. And because like I said, some guys had reached out, hey, I want one, I want one. And Michael's like, dude, you gotta make me one. Yeah, because Michael's got probably the biggest collection of my calls of anyone. And and and all of my one-offs, things that I've been trying here and there, like the the double pane window call I did, he goes, Hey, I want it. I'm like, man, it's a prototype. He goes, I don't care, I want it. I'm like, okay. So but but anyways, people liked that shape, so I was like, you know, I just I'm just gonna move my regular call line to this new shape away from my more basic like you said, it had the gen, it's more of a generic shape, but there's the rounder insert on the round. The rounder insert, but but the key focus on that first shape was not the insert. The insert was just something to flow with the barrel, which my wife is gonna kill me, but I'm gonna tell this story because it's hilarious. I gotta hear it. So the first call I turned, I just turned by muscle memory, and it looked just like a Richanton, and I'm like, Well, I can't do that. You can't, yeah, yeah. Because that's a ripoff. Like, so I I'm sitting there just racking my brain, and I asked my wife, I said, Hey, do you have a seamstress tape? She said, Well, yeah. I said, Well, go get it for me. And she brought it in there. I said, Now come here. She's like, What are you doing? I was like, I just need to take some measurements. So I took her measurements, and if you don't know, I'm I'm pretty skilled in math, it's what I do for a living, and I scaled it down precisely her measurements to a size of a duck call barrel. Come on. That is how the first shape came about. It's my wife's figure. Oh, yeah. A figure.

SPEAKER_03

No man can deny.

SPEAKER_07

Exactly. And it's unique because no one can ever say that they went exactly like that. It's pretty cool. I never knew that.

SPEAKER_05

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_07

She hates that story.

SPEAKER_05

Does she listen to the podcast too? She does not. Okay, then she won't she don't have to worry about hearing. We'll keep a secret for you on that one, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That that's probably one of the best stories I've heard on how you come up with a design. It's pretty unique.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, we're all built different. And I was like, well, that I said that that that would not be a ripoff of anybody but her.

SPEAKER_03

That's probably gotta be the hardest thing about being unique in this call industry. Because I mean, there's quite a few call makers now, right? In present day, there's a lot of people trying, you know, and trying to do something. And it it is a good thing. But trying to be unique is probably coming up with your shape, like your form and fashion.

SPEAKER_07

That is the hard behind creating a tone board for something that actually runs good and sounds like a duck, the shape is is probably the second toughest thing.

SPEAKER_06

Well, and you get in your mind, like everyone who's already making duck calls, you see what they're making, and like in your head, you know what you like, and so part of it's gonna resemble the calls that you like.

SPEAKER_05

That's another thing. Like there's so many people making so many different types of calls. No matter what you do, something's gonna look somewhat similar to somebody else. Kind of like uh let's see.

SPEAKER_07

Well, we all we all get in, yeah, we all get influenced whether we know it or not. Um, no matter what.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, we're we're creatures of habit. Exactly. Human beings are creatures of habit, just like any other creature. So you're automatically, you see something, you're like, oh, I really like that. And then you as soon as you try to put it into your you're like everybody's like, oh, yeah, we've seen that before. We're like, well, yeah, because I've seen it before.

SPEAKER_05

You may have your own little tweak on it, but the overall aspect kind of resembles Well, I mean, I've seen I've seen some call makers, it the design looks somewhat the same, but they sound completely different. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So it it there's definitely difference uh 100% on every time a call is handmade, obviously. But I mean it's just really so I I have one more question, and I'll let them ask questions because I'm gonna do it. I love it. Dude, like the call, I I talked about this on the podcast. The talk call he gave me is like it's my favorite call in my collection now. It really is. Like I I love it to fucking death. And but uh so your jig, how did you go about getting your own jig? I mean, did you have one made?

SPEAKER_07

I mean, how'd that happen? I got real fortunate. So I I think a lot of callmakers tell you, you know, we all start out, you either cut them by hand or you get a public jig and learn from there. So that's what I did. I was I ordered a public jig. I'm like, well, that'll at least give me the basis of a shape of a tone board, and then I'll start hand sanding down to like it's something I like. Well, the first one I got, I never I got them to sound like a duck. I'm like, okay, this is decent enough to sell, but it still wasn't that tone and that sound that I was actually looking for. So I found another one. I was like, all right, I'm gonna base it off this. I'm like, man, this isn't working. It's I I'm happy, but I'm not ecstatic about it. So I ordered some already turned down acrylic blanks that are made just to practice cutting tone boards. Okay, I didn't even know they made it like that. Yeah, there's there's certain companies you can order that from. Because it just cuts out the turn down time whenever you're just running prototype. Okay. So I got lucky, and on the third one that I cut by hand, I was like, that's the sound I'm looking for. Because I whenever Richie Tone came out with this short barrel, that that that hands down was my absolute favorite.com. Yeah, you had it out here two weeks ago. I had it out here two weeks ago. And Butch even took one and boarded it out, which was uh, you know, that short barrel was a predecessor to the daisy cutter. Yeah. And I don't know if him and John had been tinkering with the short barrels, but he took one of mine and boarded out and opened it up, and I was like, man, I think it's sweet. And I was like, that's uh sound similar to that is what I'm looking for. And that third one that I cut, I was like, man, that's it. So uh I sent it off to a guy, a machinist, and he said, Yeah, I can do this. And you know, a few hundred bucks later, and about eight weeks later, I had a custom jig in the middle.

SPEAKER_06

Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_05

What was that a year or so ago, around this time, I guess, whenever maybe not around this time, but you it was whenever you came up with your new design, you were like, Jackson, try this. And I took it outside and I blew it, and I was like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07

Like it was the first one you were like, Man, this isn't ducky enough.

SPEAKER_05

Well, yeah. I mean, he is on it, he is probably the most honest critical. I'm probably I'm probably a lot of people think I'm a nasso, but I'm just like, I I will tell you what I think. I mean Oh, we know he was like, I he I literally walked. In I didn't even grabbed a beer yet, I think. And he goes, Try this. And I was like, Alright, cool. Took it outside, and I was like, Holy shit. I was like, it sounds so good. He's like, What do I need to do? I was like, Don't fucking don't fuck with perfection. Like, it is put it back down. It is so great. I mean, it was so good. I remember the first time I ever blew it. I was like, I was blown away. It sounded that good. I really did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Well, here's the thing. Whenever you follow the footsteps of I I look at my duck call lineage from Chick Majors to Butch to John, it's like, man, I've got to make something that would make those guys proud. Yeah. To say, you know what? Yeah, I work with him. I taught him a few things. You know, it's it's it's not only just kind of making my own calling, my own style and doing well in it. It's it's I want to make them proud as well. Because it's almost like, you know, like my son. I've got him making calls now. Like I want to instill in him work ethic and things of that nature to where it's something he can be proud of, and that he's thinking, man, am I making my dad proud? Right. Like, yeah, that boy makes me proud just for being out in the shop with him.

SPEAKER_05

But I hell, I got one of his calls. I I got it, we got it for Maddie, but uh I actually took it and I hunted it this year one time.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, you know, he's stealing everything.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, don't be leaving a duck call laying around my house. So you know what I mean? I mean, to be fair, it was sitting on my desk where I keep my duck calls sometimes before I go on a hunt. I'll line them up, and whatever I pick up in the morning is what I'm picking up and blowing for that day. She messed up, left it in his space in between his. She left it in my space and I just grabbed it. I mean, what can I say? You know? And I used it. Hell, I killed a few ducks over it. I mean, uh no complaints there. And what is your son? Nine? He's 10. 10th? 10th.

SPEAKER_07

He just had his birthday. Yep. He had a birthday in August, uh, so he turned 10. So yeah, he's 10 and a half, he'll tell you. He's a very exactly literal child.

SPEAKER_05

What day in August? 13th. Damn. I'm 5th.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, whenever Jackson was gonna decide to let the rest of us talk. I was gonna ask you how your son became involved in making duck calls.

SPEAKER_07

Well, it all started, uh, you know, he would see me in the shop, and he never cared about being in the shop until I started making calls, and he goes, Dad, you think we can go duck on this shop? I'm like, Yes, I'm like, Man, it's I said, It's been a while since I've hunted. I said, you know, because I'm not gonna take him to the rat race of running into boats and in a public ground housing, and it's not worth it to me. But um uh cousin of mine, fortunate enough, has some flooded fields, flooded green timber here right outside of town. And he goes, hey man, anytime you want to bring your boys, bring him. I'm like, absolutely. I said, we'll be there open in the morning. He's like, all right, son. I said, this is about to cost me a lot of money, but it is worth it. I said, this is all the stuff we need. And he goes, okay. He goes, Well, I'm ready. And he goes, You think I can make a duck call? I was like, you know, I think you're big enough. Uh he'd been in the shop a little bit, he'd run a drill press, and I was like, I think I'll let you run a miter saw in a lathe. I said, I'm not gonna let you get on the table saw or the bandsaw. But he got out there and he he he started doing real well pretty quickly and picking it up. You know, I of course I went all the safety stuff with him first. I said, Look, and he kind of got a little timid. I said, Don't be scared of it. If you get scared of it, you're gonna hurt yourself. Uh but you know, when he made his first one, he goes, Man, that's awesome. I'm like, I got him, hooked. Yeah, I got him now, he's mine. Yeah, good feeling.

SPEAKER_03

It reminds me a lot, like well, you were saying, like, you you were talking about him feeling like he's uh impressing you or whatever, you know, whenever he makes those calls and stuff like that. But I don't ever think about it like that. I think it's just like because m my dad being in woodworking and stuff, I fell into that really quick. Like, and I wanted to be the top man in the shop, even above his employees, even though I was like 13 years old. I wanted to do everything that they could do, and I wanted to be the guy that he, you know, he came to me, knew how to do everything. And I think it's just more of like that's the world that you're in, that's what dad's doing. I should be good at it too. It's not like I'm trying to impress or you know, don't d don't ever worry about that, yeah, that side of it. I think he just really enjoys it because you enjoy it, yeah, you know, and that and that's cool, a father-son bond like that.

SPEAKER_07

Well, I'll tell you, he he comes up with some he he reminds me a little bit of Cloud Jacobs when he he comes up with some quirky design. Oh, that's cool though. And and I don't know if y'all got to see it. Did y'all see the call he made John for his birthday? No, I haven't. Oh man, it's cool. I haven't got it. Is it in there? He he might have it in here. You got a John, where's that call? Come here, come here. Come here. No, where's the call? He gone.

SPEAKER_05

He left. Goodbye. Okay. I'll tell the story. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_07

Uh back in January, he goes, Dad, I want to make call, John, a call for his birthday. He goes, When's his birthday? I said, Man, I think it's in March. I said, That's when we did his birthday celebration last year. So he spent about five, six hours drawing this duck call up, and he showed it to me and he said, What do you think? I said, Man, that's pretty cool. He said, Man, that's John as a duck. I'm like, I would have never done it. Oh, yeah, I've seen that earlier. But he drew a duck that had the nice hat and the long hair, and uh he started making it a couple weeks ago and turning it, and then he came down with a flu, and I'm like, he goes, Dad, we gotta get it for you for his birthday. I said, Don't worry. I said, I'll go get it finished for you. I said, I'll turn that insert for you. I said, I'll tune it for you. I said, We'll have it done for his birthday. He goes, Okay. Uh man, he got it in here and he was he just couldn't wait to bring it to him and give it to him, and and and and got his picture made with him with it, and and he was the smile on his face to see John smiling about it was it was worth all of it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's cool. So that's really cool.

SPEAKER_05

And and your son even has his own design in himself apart from yours, too.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, yeah, it's and he has no two calls alike. Yeah, you know, and he wants to name every single duck call he turned. So I I I bought the first one from him. It looks like an old whiskey barrel, and he goes, Dad, it looks like a barrel. I'm gonna call it the barrel. The barrel. I said, Well, I'll uh I'll buy that from you. I said, Daddy needs the first one. I said, My dad got my first one. I said, Your dad needs it. Your first one can't be right. That's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_05

So it's so cool just to see all this stuff. Like, you know, we weren't really a part of the age where people were making duck calls around here. Yeah and to see somebody from here making duck calls.

SPEAKER_03

I know you don't live here anymore, but you're we were by the time we got old enough, it it switched pretty heavily to the CNC machines and stuff like that. Like uh I mean I graduated in 2012, it was already on the CNC straight. I I mean I remember coming to this shop, but I do not remember the other shop. I remember coming to this original shop before the fire. Well coming up here.

SPEAKER_06

Everything turned to CNC and mass production, and now it's making a circle back where the actual handcraft, the craftsmanship's coming more back into play for it.

SPEAKER_05

I will say Well, there's not near as many people in this area handcrafting calls. There is a few, but not a lot, which kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03

But which I mean but you have to have both present day. Because we we are growing in popularity of duck hunting. We have more people going duck hunting, so you can't hand turn everything. We could never keep up with the demand. Yeah. I know for sure here at RT, the number of calls that we push definitely would never be able to keep up. Um but it I I will say though, there's still a craftsmanship in CNC calls because it comes from somewhere. We're mapping, we're mapping originally hand-turn calls.

SPEAKER_07

Well, yeah, and it's also not putting off an actual finished product either. I mean, there's still there are still hands-on. Like any call, I know that any call that leaves this shop has still has hands on it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, like a minimum of like five people after the machine. Like yeah, it's it's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But you've got to have those machines to to to if you're gonna do this as a business, is your main live source of life, yeah. You've you've got to scale that up.

SPEAKER_05

So I mean, like the best way I've been able to explain this play, probably A-Rod's actually given more tours than anybody up here at Richantone. He's not even an employee, but he normally Stuttgart, man. But like, whenever he's here, he's the one giving all the tours. The best way I explain it though, it it's kind of like a line. Like, you think of somebody working on a line, like, you know, line shift kind of work.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, in a way, it is an assembly line.

SPEAKER_05

It's an assembly line, that's what I was getting at. Yeah, because I mean it you start off from a block and then you give it to Coon Dog, Kung Foot, and then you um what do you call him? Coon dog. I call him everything, man. He tries to make him cooler than what he is. God, it's good to do. I love my buddy.

SPEAKER_07

God thank us.

SPEAKER_05

Did you ever meet him? Was he around back in the day when you were here?

SPEAKER_07

No, no. So uh when I started, it was just me, John and Butch and Nochop would come out here, hired Rusty, um and then and there was a few more that come on along the way, but he was not here.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, not working here. Did he ever just come in? I know he was hanging around. Yeah, was he ever just hanging around back in the day? Well, I've got a terrible memory, so it might be about to say it's been a few beers, a few moons ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That's crazy. You you've added a different, like the I don't even know the legacy of Butch, because I grew up listening to Dad talk about stories of Butch turning calls outside the youth center over there. And that that's where dad grew up watching him turn calls. He's a you walk in there and the fumes about knock you down from whatever he was the dipping. Whatever he was dipping them calls in. Or dipping room right there. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03

Do y'all used to use like a lacquer dip or something?

SPEAKER_07

Uh Straight Secret can't reveal that.

SPEAKER_03

The old dip, I know the old dip or like the old clear coat used to actually flake off a little bit. And then we stopped doing that.

SPEAKER_07

So that's one of the aspects of call making that I was never.

SPEAKER_06

Where's that call that you got for your birthday?

SPEAKER_05

Uh everybody John is in here to run his energy. So if you couldn't tell. What duck call?

SPEAKER_03

They're birthday called.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's right here. I only seen the room with us.

SPEAKER_07

We couldn't find it. Well, I didn't want to go through his bag.

SPEAKER_02

Is that the name of a duck boy?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, he calls his duck boy duck calls.

SPEAKER_02

And like he put on there, you know, I know you can't see it, but uh he's got an awesome first name too, because his name's John, too check. And what is so awesome is I I almost showed us maple? That's a curly ambrosia maple, though. Okay. But he's got John, and then he said, Mr. John, if you were a duck, that's what you would look like. Look, I got my hat on and hair. That is freaking awesome. That is gave me the drawing of it, and what's funny is I guess he came up with the idea, and then he's it says in there, don't tell Mr. John. I mean, that's freaking awesome, bro. That is freaking amazing. And I mean, I look pretty damn cool as a duck. Yeah, hey, not bad.

SPEAKER_05

Not bad. Is Mississippi State still beating the shit out of Arkansas already?

SPEAKER_02

We will we were. But it'll be game three now. That's what we need. Game three.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, speaking of Mississippi State, I'll tell you John took me uh um first one of my first college football games I ever got to go to. We went to Starkville. And uh he goes, man, we're gonna go to Telgate, we're gonna watch the game. We might have even gone to a bar or two, I don't remember. But this was early, early Orange. Yeah, yeah, hey, yeah. Here's the I was looking at colleges to go to, and he goes, Man, you ought to look at Mississippi State. I'm like, all right, let's go down there and have a good time. And I was like, man, I love this place. Then I started seeing that out of state tuition. I was like, woo. But times were different back then.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. No, I I bet I was like, I see why people from here go to Mississippi to go to college now. I do. Hey, no, you did. You went to Oxford. Yeah, you old miss.

SPEAKER_02

You're an old miss, dude. He's old miss, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05

Then he he got right and he transferred back to Arkansas. He graduated as a hall.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he don't know if he was that, or just he needed to be closer to home.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not gonna hate on you, bro, because you know my wife went to Ole Miss. That's that's the best thing that um I always say came out of Mississippi, but I think that's why not right. Hard to argue that.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, it's just been so cool, John, since you just walked in. We've been he's been telling us like all the stories just from way back when just well criminal.

SPEAKER_02

Because I mean, I'm telling you, like, he was the first employee. Um, and so he walked so we could run. Yeah, and I mean he You can just imagine what y'all experienced now and just think when I was 20, I'd have been. You were 26? 25 or 26. So not knowing what I know now, like, bro, we we probably put him through the room. I mean, like, some dumb stuff. Like, if he was in a fraternity, he was the first pledge of the RT fraternity. That's true.

SPEAKER_01

That is true.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it was it was um it was fun though. Um, like we started at that old shop, maybe you know. Yeah, I told him about that. I can remember uh the dog shed we heard about the. Like Rusty would come over to the shop and we had these old metal fans outside, and like when you turned them on, it was so loud. Rusty'd come in and I hate to even say this, but I'd be sitting there, lathe would be running. I'm supposed to be polishing acrylic. And I'd be staring up at uh watching Days of Our Lives with a cigarette on my mouth. Like this one would be like, man, I hope Marlena gets through this because I don't know. That was the days she was possessed, wasn't it? I mean, I'm serious, bro. I'm gonna get all the stuff poppers in it. I don't even know if I'm making a couple of things. This is the greatest thing ever.

SPEAKER_07

He's not a lot of moving in the summertime when I'm getting it.

SPEAKER_02

Like, oh, I gotta get like Paycheck's coming and he gets out at uh on the work program at 2 30. I can put these cigarettes in the back like I'm doing something.

SPEAKER_07

Y'all, we would get so bored, you know. We would like I said, he would, we would watch uh Days of our Lives, Passions.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, I'll know them, bro.

SPEAKER_07

One day I got so bored I told John, I said, man, I'm gonna see if I can set the world record for polishing duck call barrels. And I bit and I wrote it in, I think I polished 127 barrels in one Saturday. And I even wrote it up on the little uh shelf above there, like the new world records. I don't know if it's a world record or not, but you know, laying down the gun.

SPEAKER_02

You know what my mine was to see how long I could get that ass hand. I'd be like, Mullena, don't go back to uh what was Roman? Roman.

SPEAKER_05

No, Roman ain't Roman Roman dude.

SPEAKER_02

Call number sixty-four started up on our accounting program.

SPEAKER_03

How many calls were y'all making, do you think?

SPEAKER_05

Is it a little bit a month? Was it a lot less than it is now?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we're getting close. Yeah, man. I don't know. Between 1130 and 29, not many. When paycheck got there, we were a little more productive.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, I think what what were we doing, like a hundred a month? 100 a month. I don't remember those. Holy wow. That was a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, we averaged like what? 150. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

People ask me that all the time. I honestly, and that's sad. I don't know how many duck calls we make a day or whatever. But um back then, you know, it was dude, yeah. If we did a hundred, what'd you say, a hundred of them?

SPEAKER_07

About a hundred a month, I think is what it was.

SPEAKER_02

Man, it probably uh it might have been a little more than that, but not much. I mean well you think about it, you can't. But like we drilled all the pieces of wood, put them on there, turn them around.

SPEAKER_05

Well, there also wasn't that many of y'all like how it is today.

SPEAKER_02

Me and Paycheck.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean it was y'all though, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, because Butch was had heart problems. It was basically us. Yeah, Butch worked at night. He would take the calls. If he did, I mean, so it was me and Paycheck. Paycheck was only there from two to five. Yeah, two to five, and then from eleven to two, I mean, it was a soap opera. There wasn't a lot of productivity going on.

SPEAKER_03

So whenever whenever you say you were hand-doing, did y'all have some kind of jig set up where you could easily?

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, we would bore all the blocks, and then we did have a duplicator lay that would rough it out pretty much, but then you still took the barrel and the insert, and you still had to hand do the rest of it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, you had to put it back into the jig and do it?

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, you put it so it was a duplicator lathe, so it had a pattern. So like you would go back and forth and it would kind of rough out the barrel. I don't even remember if we had one for the insert. We may have.

SPEAKER_07

Uh there might have been one for the insert.

SPEAKER_02

And so then after that, then you go put it back on the lathe, and then you would actually make the final shape, and you do the same thing with the barrel.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's how it was. When I started, I I was on the duplicator, and I would I would try to get it. I would have to try to stay ahead of John because then John would do the final hand finishing and putting the last touches on the back.

SPEAKER_02

And that's where old Pepper would come over and running.

SPEAKER_07

And I would never know she was behind me until I could hit, you know, smell it.

SPEAKER_05

As soon as that spotty AC turned on, you smelled it. Man, that's so crazy to see see how much it's changed. Oh, yeah. I mean all this is all I've ever known for the last, what, five five years and almost three months now?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I can't. I've been here five years.

SPEAKER_05

No, uh December 2nd was my five years here.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, so the first year when I left, so I worked at Hilton Head, was a landscape architect. Butch said something about coming back buying Richentone, but between there, I worked on the farm before I bought Richentone. Farm hand jumping. Yeah, so but I knew I was not good at that, but I came back because I knew I was gonna do Rich and Home. And um I remember the first day that I um worked or whatever at Richantonio and had bought it, and I went in there and I cut like there's some of these little boxes around here somewhere that uh where we cut boxes, box of wood, and I cut that's all I did one day is just cut the coca bola. I was like, that's a day's work, bro. And I went home and I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. And then I started thinking about it. Luckily, Angie had a good job.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't know she was a teacher. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

What did she teach? She was actually the head professor out there for the while.

SPEAKER_03

Makes sense though, right? Do you know you're a teacher?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, check out, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So uh, but so that first year, this is embarrassing, but um I paid myself$13,000. That's what I made, and I was thinking, like, this is the greatest thing ever. Oh yeah. And then Andrew's like, I mean, you realize how far$13,000 goes. So I had to step it up. You know, I'm gonna do it. There was something about though, like, man, just going in and like it was all it was, you know, you were taking it. Rewarding work. It was a new job, a new thing, and you know, even though I just cut wood that day and opened up the doors and everything, I was just like, eh, this is awesome. Because I was getting to do what I wanted to do. She take your TV away, make you get a little number.

SPEAKER_06

I was bored when somebody's gonna bring that up. No more TV for you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, at home, I called her the warden. Um, she's in charge.

SPEAKER_07

Oh shit, fire. I did not realize you paid yourself that. That that may I I'll I'll say this about you.

SPEAKER_02

Back then, that was still nothing.

SPEAKER_07

Nothing. Yeah. No, he's true.

SPEAKER_02

You know what everybody says that was a lot? No, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_07

So, you know, I told you when when I started working at Richard, I didn't even know how to blow a duck call. And I told John, I said, man, I want to win the chicken sophie. I said, I need some, I need some college money. And he's like, paycheck. He goes, Man, if you win the chicken sophie, I'll match it. Because he's like, man, this is a surefire bet. He goes, I ain't gonna have to pay a dime. But I sat up there late at night and I'd work with Butch and he'd hit me with those acrylic rods, and I learned, and and damn it, I went and won that thing. And I'd say this about John, he is a man of his word. After I won that, when I graduated college, he wrote a check to my mom for an additional, what,$1,500. So that'll be.

SPEAKER_02

I stood in play on online exactly.

SPEAKER_07

Well, but they bought him a couple books. Well, here's what I've thought about that later in life is you know, you were 26, 27 years old, and I think back when I was that age, it's like you got a newborn child, uh mortgage, a wife, and it's like, man, this guy just cut me a$1,500 check at the time. It's like, oh, okay. Looking to him outs. Yeah, yeah, he said what he did, but as I've gotten older, I realized like, wow, like that was a big deal at that time in his life. You know, he's in his mid-20s with a family, and and and he's a man of his word, and and and this man helped me get through college. Like, I was like, that's I said I will forever be in debt to John for that. Like, that's I can't pay that back.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, that's you know, I just big boss.

SPEAKER_05

I knew something was coming. I mean he doesn't he doesn't over here being heartfelt, John. No, John John don't like Heartfelt.

SPEAKER_03

He don't like Heartfelt.

SPEAKER_07

Well, that's just one of my favorite stories to tell about John. You know, you gotta you you tell a lot about a man by his character, and you know, it's it's not setting up because you know, a lot of people don't know John the way that we all know him, and yeah, yeah. So I like that too. You know, I appreciate that. I appreciate what you did from him. I mean, you know what Tom we know.

SPEAKER_02

I mean if you don't get complacent, you know, and I mean um back then many sound fucking advice. Yeah, well we we were proud man that you did that and uh that was cool. So um let me show you my favorite paycheck story though.

SPEAKER_07

Don't cut this one because it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02

Alright. So Paycheck obviously is our first employee. And um man, like I said, he went through hazing for the RT for journal. So one day he's getting out of school and we were like, hey Paycheck, come hunting with us. He was like, oh yeah, man, it is me and Rusty. Come on, come hunting with us. We told him where we were and everything. We didn't have phone. I I guess we didn't have phones. No, we hadn't cell phones, but they were. But I mean you couldn't send a pen. We just told where the kids were. Yeah. So uh anyway, um it's hard for me to say this. So uh, dude, this is like when zero grade fields are just starting to get started. And if you know anything is that about zero grades, they got a ditch around. Yeah. But you don't know it unless you know it. And so paycheck, we told him what field we're coming to, and we're like, oh yeah, come on. So bro, he's marching out there. Rusty's like, should we tell him? Nah, don't tell him. That dude is so excited. He's like, I'm coming hunting. Yeah, and he's marching out there by the time, woo! He goes all the way under, dude, and like, woo! And I'm not telling you, like, I know his waiters were wet, but Rusty's and I was probably wetter for DP by pants. That dude went all the way under, dude. Like, he's high step, and you think about it. Like, if you don't know there's a ditch and you're coming up, you're coming like dude. We are crying. I mean, to me, that's one of my favorite. No, that's not a I mean, glorified story for you, PJ. No, it's that was hilarious.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, I learned a valuable lesson that day about zero grade fields. And I still remember that first step because my hill caught that muddy bank and I said, Oh, there's no ground here.

SPEAKER_04

It was too late.

SPEAKER_05

It was too late then. Hey, we we keep I I stayed hunted though. I hey, I've done the same thing walking through a damn uh uh down there in uh government uh down in Longbell. God dang, you know there's a big ditch that runs through Longbell. And if you don't know where that ditch is at, you'll walk straight through it. Very first time I'm ever down there hunting, my buddies are like, hey, there's a ditch coming up, you know, just letting you know. I'm like, all right. I mean, I ain't worried about no fucking ditch. Well, I mean, I'm five foot fucking nothing. Five five soft maybe.

SPEAKER_06

You're the shortest one on the high, not worried about deep water.

SPEAKER_02

Your ditch, your ditch height. Your ditch height.

SPEAKER_05

I always fucking deep this fucking morning. As soon as I walk out in that shit, it goes straight over my fucking waders, and I'm just sitting there like, fuck, man, like, why did I have to want to be Billy Badass and think I could fucking do this shit next time? Bring me a fucking well, you know those little things that you can carry decoys in the sleds? Fucking put me in a damn sled and drag me across this shit next time, man.

SPEAKER_06

We'll put you in little oomphaloom outfits. I'm gonna buy you some floaties.

SPEAKER_02

Like all kinds of stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_07

Man, we've got Memphis stories, we've got Kansas City stories. I told Jackson. Yeah, y'all had the good days.

SPEAKER_03

The days y'all tell about the Memphis shows and stuff like that, the DU, like they was like, those were way better shows than Black Calls and Mike.

SPEAKER_02

They're coming back a little bit.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you know, when John mentioned that, like, he's not lying. Like, it was that you say they had me helping people with duck calls, and I didn't know how to blow duck all at the time. Like, that's how packed them shows were.

SPEAKER_02

Wintail pigeon, bruh. Yeah, wintail pigeon call. I'm gonna go. And he was like, no, wood duck, the most number one game bird in America. I was like, are you serious? He was like, yeah. Wood duck calls. Okay, no, we have woody. Wooden duck calls.

SPEAKER_05

See, uh, so it it's a good thing that me and John aren't aren't the same age, because I feel like if I'd have worked here whenever John did, it'd be.

SPEAKER_07

We couldn't handle two paychecks here. No, I agree. So were you as crazy as I I used to be? Dude, I'm telling you uh, you know, four or five beer deep paycheck is a lot of fun. My wife hates him. Really? Mine too. I don't drink. I'll get a six pack of beer and it'll last me three months at the house now.

SPEAKER_05

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02

Not a joke. Not a mine.

SPEAKER_05

Boy, you put a six pack in front of me. I'm like, whack? Fuck. Y'all ever heard that whack? Fuck. Yeah, yeah. I tell that beer. I I'm telling you, you know, sometimes I just sit there and and I and I and I think of what the the beer is thinking in my fridge while I'm at work and it's sitting at home, and I just know it's terrified for me to open that sunny fridge. Like I know it is. It is lonely. It needs a partner. You said it work and think about your beer in the fridge.

SPEAKER_06

Is that what you just said? That's it.

SPEAKER_04

You're next. What's up, Ronnie? I'm good.

SPEAKER_07

I just came in here because some royalty in the Duck Hallmaker world just.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just gonna give you a heads up. We're actually gonna turn this into like two or three episodes because this is a full episode. Yeah, this is yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I need a fucking beer.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we're we're about to wrap it up. We're at time to wrap this one up. And then so, hey, just so y'all know, we may at the beginning we say we might be rolling through a whole bunch of people. Yeah. Uh, but we're actually gonna turn this into multiple multiple episodes because we got some really cool people in the tap room tonight or today. So what do you gotta say, John?

SPEAKER_00

Say it.

SPEAKER_02

He is sitting on D waiting on home. How about that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we gotta cut that. Marketing manager over here, no, we gotta cut that this whole time for no reason.

SPEAKER_07

I know for no reason. I didn't know I could just say what I wanted to say.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, well, you can say whatever the hell you want to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll say this about Rusty. Uh I need to know I'm gonna be able to do it. He's a bit shampoo. No, he is not. I I promise you that. No, yeah, I'm terrified of Rusty. Have you never heard of Jackass Tuesdays? No. Was this an old thing? Uh Rusty, if you're listening, you might want to bring back Jackass Tuesdays. No, please fucking don't. Please don't. What is Jackson? Can we talk about that? Jackass Tuesdays.

SPEAKER_05

Can we talk about Jackass Tuesdays?

SPEAKER_07

You got some Linder liability. Before we go some liability insurance.

SPEAKER_00

No, statues and limitations. Status and limitations.

SPEAKER_03

What were you drinking?

SPEAKER_07

Uh a beer. Any kind that's freaking a beer. I'm Del Ray. A couple of beers. Del Ray. I'll take a blue wing.

SPEAKER_06

Two blue wings, second radio, Del Ray. Hey, will you come in carrying them on like a track?

SPEAKER_05

Hey, tell tell Ronnie too. He can he can get whatever he wants, put it on me or whatever. Yeah. Just one beer, Ronnie. I would tell one story on Jagass 2.

SPEAKER_07

This is something y'all used to do? So this has nothing to do with John or RT of calls. It is not affiliated with RT Calls Incorporated. It was just the employees. It was uh me and Rusty, and uh we had at this point, I would think I was a senior in high school, and we had another guy in a work program named Matt Kelly, and we called him Fat Boy or Rerun. I called him. The friend group calls him Fat Boy, and but Rusty and John named him Rerun. And we got the bright idea that Rusty had we used to have these uh polishing tiles. Rusty was like, You think if I uh popped y'all with this in your bare stomach, would it hurt? Like, I don't know, let's try it, man. And so he would tie a knot with the end and and rerun. He was just like, yeah, go ahead, I'll go first. So he lifted his shirt up and let Rusty popped him, and and but I needed to say there was blood involved, and I was like, Well, well, I want my turn next. You know, I'm man enough. I can I can handle this too. If he's gonna if he can handle it, he's in the tenth grade, I'm a senior, I can handle this. You know, it was just just guys being guys at that time, just like man, yeah, yeah, like hold my beer, watch this guy, you know. That's all it like I said, it was just it was just guys having fun. You know, that's all it was.

SPEAKER_03

Man, it is there might be a little bit that still goes on with him and Coonfoot.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, him and Coonfoot, 100 fucking. Them two, man, God thank you. I I'm I'm serious. If if a reality you can have a reality TV show solely, Coonfoot and Rusty. Oh, yeah. Solely. For sure. I mean, for sure. It it's probably some of the most comical shit you ever see.

SPEAKER_03

We're gonna have to get you back in here for a better planned full-on podcast. We've already done that. We haven't even scratched the surface. No, we haven't even scratched the surface.

SPEAKER_07

Holy shit, look at you, boy. If y'all go back to the first RT hunting videos, yeah. Actually, even before that, the instructional how-to CDs and maybe cassettes on how to blow a duck call. I wasn't a part of those, thank you, but I was in the room and the recording, and I'm sitting there at John's desk at his house drawing pictures of him and Butch and Jimbo. But I was there, like, so you're from the Titan dudes? Uh no, uh, Jackson, I was drawing them because I didn't know how to blow a duck all at the time. Take me like one of your French ladies.

SPEAKER_05

That would go for a high price.

SPEAKER_07

You know, I may make a duck.

SPEAKER_05

Let me take the opportunity paycheck. I had to.

SPEAKER_07

I'm gonna bring I'm gonna take your measurements. Make a duct.

SPEAKER_02

We have common genetics.

SPEAKER_06

Measurements off of what would you call that one?

SPEAKER_02

We gotta toast bitch up or what?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. We're gonna close this one out. We're just gonna rambling out. Just so y'all know, uh, whatever we said at the beginning, this is gonna roll over into multiple podcasts. And uh thank y'all for listening in. Tune in for the next one. Who's gonna close us out with a toast?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, John's on one. Give him the mic. Here's the ten more.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, I mean Paycheck's got it. I'll just go on check. First of all, yes, I will be back. Uh, this is not the only podcast with paycheck. Amen. So to good friends, good beers, and good times, guys. Come on.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? If you ain't living away, you're taking a two months.

SPEAKER_07

Absolutely. Ten more years, baby. Ten more years.